Alright fair enough, i guess i was kinda antgonistic with my wording and did not mean to misjudge you. As far as your thoughts on orientation, I dont think its that black and white. The hunman mind and sex drive are complex things and i think to reduce all these very intricate motivations and desires to fit into three catagories or orientation is just a little ignorant. Is a girl who makes out with her friend ********* for a girls gone wild video nessesarily gay or bi? no. Are the guys who participate in a gangbang gay because there are more men than females present in the act? Would a girl getting fucked by another girl wearing a strapon definetly want to get fucked by a tranny? who knows, MY point is you can't really say and hold everyone or every scenario up to the same standard because every single person is different and has dfferent motivations for why they like and do what they do. Regarding coming out of the closet I can say in all honesty I can acknowledge a nice cock and even get turned on by it if I see it in porn but would still never want to fuck or get fucked by a guy let alone be in a relationship with one, men are not attractive to me. even consider the number of trannys that are more attractive than some "real" women, would they turn you on less than the uglyest girl you ever saw? do all these things I'm saying make me gay, bi-curious or just a closet case in denial? I really think that is just a stupid question because its all just semantics and ridgid definitins our society has used to carve up the human sex drive into a bunch of narrow kinds of distictions so that we can supposedly better understand them and separate ourselves from what makes us uncomfortable. Sorry if you felt under ****** by my previous post, or this one but thats just how I feel, either way Im in no way trying to convince anybody because I am secure in my sexuality. :glugglug: