WWE Raw & Smackdown Weekly Thread

[ChefChiTown]

i wish he would just give it up and retire for good, i cant tell you how much i have hated hbk since his beginnings in wwe

if i had to choose the top 3 overted wrestlers, they would be

1. hbk
2. rey mysterio
3. undertaker

HBK is awesome. He is one of the very, very few wrestlers that the WWE has that can compete in ANY type of match and make it enjoyable. (Ladder, hardcore, cage, etc)

As far as over-rated wrestlers (who currently still wrestle), I would say that my top 3 would be...

1) Batista (he is the worst wrestler and character ever)
2) Rey Mysterio
3) Jeff Hardy (he used to be awesome in tag team matches, now he just sucks)

 

[whalers90]

i wish he would just give it up and retire for good, i cant tell you how much i have hated hbk since his beginnings in wwe

if i had to choose the top 3 overted wrestlers, they would be

1. hbk
2. rey mysterio
3. undertaker

HBK over-rated? is one of the most preposterous things i have ever heard or read

 

[rookieb]

i think i might be the only wwe fan that does not like HBK and rey mysterio

Oh you're not the only one...definitely pulling for Jericho and Kane here...hell, I'd take The Honky tonk man kicking either of their asses

 

[rookieb]

i wish he would just give it up and retire for good, i cant tell you how much i have hated hbk since his beginnings in wwe

if i had to choose the top 3 overted wrestlers, they would be

1. hbk
2. rey mysterio
3. undertaker

Whoops! Just stopped agreeing with you...Undertaker??!!?? Be serious, he's carried that company at times, and is a better pound for pound fighter than half the gimps in WWE or TNA. Yes, I said fighter...watch him sometime...

 

[bigbadbrody]

HBK is awesome. He is one of the very, very few wrestlers that the WWE has that can compete in ANY type of match and make it enjoyable. (Ladder, hardcore, cage, etc)

IMO HBK is overrated, more overrated since he came back from his neck injury sometime in the eraly 200's

As far as over-rated wrestlers (who currently still wrestle), I would say that my top 3 would be...

1) Batista (he is the worst wrestler and character ever)
2) Rey Mysterio
3) Jeff Hardy (he used to be awesome in tag team matches, now he just sucks)

I am not a fan of batista, but i still think hbk is more overrated,

as far as rey mysterio goes all he can do is the 619, and that isnt even that good of a move

now for jeff hardy, he IMO he is not even close to beibng overrated, yes his tag team days with matt were his glory days, but he puts hios life on the line in every match he competes in to entertain the fans and that what makes me a fan of his wrestling ability. Name another wrestler that puts there body on the line like jeff does

HBK over-rated? is one of the most preposterous things i have ever heard or read

haha we all have our own opinions

Oh you're not the only one...definitely pulling for Jericho and Kane here.

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Whoops! Just stopped agreeing with you...Undertaker??!!?? Be serious, he's carried that company at times, and is a better pound for pound fighter than half the gimps in WWE or TNA. Yes, I said fighter...watch him sometime...

just because the undertaker has been with wwe for over ten years means shit. He has been with the company longer than batista and cena, and he hasnt even had as many title runs as either of them

plus, his wrestlemania matches are all so boring, because you always know the outcome

 

[Artimus]

Candice Michelle just can't wrestle. Ringwise she's on a par with Kelly Kelly. How she ever became Woman's Champ is beyond me.

 

[swamp_bats]

Shawn Michaels is not overrated. He has about the best combination of in ring skill and personality for all the drama bits as any wrestler ever. The only thing wrong with him these days is he always seems moopy and depressed. He always looks like he is gonna cry. Other than that he is a legend.

The most overrated in the WWE now are Batista, Kane and both the Hardys. Batista and the Hardy are all flash and no personality. Kane is just a crappy boring Undertaker rip off I would expect from TNA.

 

[jumbo_jim]

Candice Michelle just can't wrestle. Ringwise she's on a par with Kelly Kelly. How she ever became Woman's Champ is beyond me.

Candice was getting decent in the ring before her first injury, however since she came back she has been sloppy in the ring and I feel that although she should finish the program with Beth the WWE should have let her get some in ring sharpness before throwing her in a title feud.

As for Kelly they are she is getting better all the time and seems to want to get better.

 

[darkwarrior3007]

Candice was getting decent in the ring before her first injury, however since she came back she has been sloppy in the ring and I feel that although she should finish the program with Beth the WWE should have let her get some in ring sharpness before throwing her in a title feud.

As for Kelly they are she is getting better all the time and seems to want to get better.

I agree with you 100%. Before her injury, Candice was actually turning out to be decent but I think that since she had re-injured her shoulder she's being very careful. Instead of jumping back into it they should have given her more time down in FCW to train so that she would be ready. So far her first two matches back have been very sloppy and there seems to be a look on her face as if she's worried about re-injuring her shoulder again. I say give her time. I also have to say that I'm very surprised with Kelly Kelly because I'm seeing her pull off moves that I didn't think she could ever do in a million years and it looks like she's coming along pretty well.

 

[ChefChiTown]

now for jeff hardy, he IMO he is not even close to beibng overrated, yes his tag team days with matt were his glory days, but he puts hios life on the line in every match he competes in to entertain the fans and that what makes me a fan of his wrestling ability.

So does every single person who wrestles Batista. :1orglaugh God, I've seen him almost paralyze like 200 people already.

Name another wrestler that puts there body on the line like jeff does

Mick Foley, Edge, Sabu, Terry Funk (in his prime)...

Jeff Hardy used to be fucking sweet. But, he doesn't do his high-flying stunts anymore now that he's gone solo. I miss the days where him and Matt would set up 6 tables on top of eachother, climb to the top of the arena somewhere and take a dive. This is the Jeff Hardy that they need.

I remember being at a PPV event back home in Cleveland (No Mercy, I think) where the Hardy Boyz, Dudleys and Edge and Christian all fought in tag-team TLC match. God, that was fucking sweet.

 

[jumbo_jim]

Now that Jeff is in the main event picture he has toned down his high risk approach and stopped being so much of a sport monkey. It would be nice to see him still doing the occassional monster high spot but I like the fact that he is now more technical wrestling skill based.

 

[whalers90]

I miss the days where him and Matt would set up 6 tables on top of eachother, climb to the top of the arena somewhere and take a dive.

I remember being at a PPV event back home in Cleveland (No Mercy, I think) where the Hardy Boyz, Dudleys and Edge and Christian all fought in tag-team TLC match. God, that was fucking sweet.

WWE isn't fighting with WCW anymore over ratings and money and wrestlers so i think they realize that it's a business or "investment" and that they can't put thses guys bodies on the line anymore just to further their business or make their business more money.they have toned it down from what it was way way back in the day

 

[rookieb]

IMO HBK is overrated, more overrated since he came back from his neck injury sometime in the eraly 200's



I am not a fan of batista, but i still think hbk is more overrated,

as far as rey mysterio goes all he can do is the 619, and that isnt even that good of a move

now for jeff hardy, he IMO he is not even close to beibng overrated, yes his tag team days with matt were his glory days, but he puts hios life on the line in every match he competes in to entertain the fans and that what makes me a fan of his wrestling ability. Name another wrestler that puts there body on the line like jeff does



haha we all have our own opinions



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just because the undertaker has been with wwe for over ten years means shit. He has been with the company longer than batista and cena, and he hasnt even had as many title runs as either of them

plus, his wrestlemania matches are all so boring, because you always know the outcome

Please...have you any idea what the Undertaker has done for the company...or do you just base it on how much time you see him on TV? The man has elevated so many examples of young talent, who openly admit they'd be nowhere without 'Taker doing the job for them. In other words, half the punk-asses you've cheered for over the years wouldn't have jobs if 'Taker wasn't a team player.

As many titlle runs as Cena and Batista? Please dude, wrestling's not real, it's an elaborate storyline that means a hell of a lot more than who has the silly little belt. And as for Wrestlemania, I'll take 'Taker's streak over any other predictable outcome...y'know say, Triple H winning the title yet again....we're not all railing the boss's daughter...though she is a piece.

 

[rookieb]

WWE isn't fighting with WCW anymore over ratings and money and wrestlers so i think they realize that it's a business or "investment" and that they can't put thses guys bodies on the line anymore just to further their business or make their business more money.they have toned it down from what it was way way back in the day

No, but they ARE fighting TNA...ever hear of the X-division?

 

[PlasmaTwa2]

No, but they ARE fighting TNA...ever hear of the X-division?

The X-Division? That's not even as good as it used to be. I miss the days of five star matches between Samoa Joe, AJ Styles and Christopher Daniels. Now all we have are joke and gimmick matches.

Wait, that's not just the X Division, it's just TNA in general.

 

[whalers90]

The X-Division? That's not even as good as it used to be. I miss the days of five star matches between Samoa Joe, AJ Styles and Christopher Daniels. Now all we have are joke and gimmick matches.

Wait, that's not just the X Division, it's just TNA in general.

that's a point i didn't get to make. the x division lost alot of its star power with guys elevating through the ranks.

:1orglaugh sorry to say but they are not fighting TNA in ratings or money yet... the problem with that is TNA has those terrible crowds in a real crappy "arena" (it holds what 1000 people?) and they haven't done a show at MSG...none the less anywhere other than tennessee,indiana and canada. (exagerating the states so relax) they work in a small specific region. they are not as "national" as WWE.
Now don't get me wrong i like TNA and have recently begun religiously watching it.so it takes time

 

[PlasmaTwa2]

the problem with that is TNA has those terrible crowds in a real crappy "arena" (it holds what 1000 people?)

Hell, they would be lucky if they fit a thousand in that place. I was there maybe four years ago. That place is fucking small.

 

[bigbadbrody]

Please...have you any idea what the Undertaker has done for the company...or do you just base it on how much time you see him on TV? The man has elevated so many examples of young talent, who openly admit they'd be nowhere without 'Taker doing the job for them. In other words, half the punk-asses you've cheered for over the years wouldn't have jobs if 'Taker wasn't a team player.

you could just be HHH and sleep with the bosses daughter

As many titlle runs as Cena and Batista? Please dude, wrestling's not real, it's an elaborate storyline that means a hell of a lot more than who has the silly little belt. And as for Wrestlemania, I'll take 'Taker's streak over any other predictable outcome...y'know say, Triple H winning the title yet again....we're not all railing the boss's daughter...though she is a piece.[/QUOTE]

undertakers wrestlemania streak needs to end. word has it that HHH wants to be the one to end his streak, that would be so stupid. they need someone that fans would not expect to end the streak of the undertaker

 

[rookieb]

The X-Division? That's not even as good as it used to be. I miss the days of five star matches between Samoa Joe, AJ Styles and Christopher Daniels. Now all we have are joke and gimmick matches.

Wait, that's not just the X Division, it's just TNA in general.

I used to think so, but look at some of the star power they're attracting. Yes, some are WWE castoffs, but there's a whole lot more that are being actively recruited and retained. They just completed an international pay=per-view, and things are coming together for them in merchandising and sponsorships. They're not a real threat to WWE and possibly never will be, but WWE needs to respect and up their game.:glugglug:

 

[rookieb]

undertakers wrestlemania streak needs to end. word has it that HHH wants to be the one to end his streak, that would be so stupid. they need someone that fans would not expect to end the streak of the undertaker[/QUOTE]

I disagree. There should be one legacy that can't be touched. 'Taker would let it happen, but he's used to doing the job for the company in order to get the show or another player over. If Vince has any respect, he won't let the streak end, especially to his whiny son-in-law. 'Taker's yard is the Wrestlemania ring, and it needs to stay that way.
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