North American Union??
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Will E Worm
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Sorry, mate - I have to laugh at this! :rofl2:
Even Dick Cheney is not so full of bullshit as the anti-semitic abomination Zeitgeist. :crash:
... how can you possibly take this bullshitry for a credible witness?
Will E Worm
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Are you saying you believe it, or not? Because it seems like you're saying it's all nonsense and everything is just fine.
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1) There's no substance to the NAU. It is a pet subject for conspiracy theorists, isolationists and anti-semites (who conveniently mistake the Rockefeller ****** for being Jewish)
2) When the Washington pols of any creed deny that the NAU is on the agenda, the aforementioned groups call them liars, because Bush, Cheney and the guys from Capitol Hill "are liars anyway".
3) Even if... what would be so bad about international cooperation on a pan-American basis, in the first place?
> Has the EU hurt European nations in any way? No, it's a good thing to have.
> Has the Euro proven to be a desaster? No, quite to the contrary! Just take a look at the dwindling value of the dollar compared to the surging importance of the Euro.
> Isolationism has proven detrimental to any nation. France is still the most protectionist country in Europe which causes its economy to fall behind the rest of the continent with appallingly slow growth. Especially compared to the economically open nations like Ireland, Poland or (after the recent reforms on the economic sector) Germany.
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I agree with what you say of course DVC.In another thread I said what I thought was one of the major differences between europe and the United States.That in my mind the countrys of europe are many ways similar to individual states in the US,and that when the european's who came here thought about how to organize the US they definately had a different vision than what Europe looked like with all the fragmentation by country of the european continent.They had a firm idea of one big country and thats what we got and it was a major advantage for us.As I key this I see how you might even call that a conspiracy,but maybe that just means all conspiracys are not evil things.The EU is a realization that europe united is much stronger and better than a fragmented one.Now the US is trying to counter that with a north american version,most people in the US have no problem with the part of that equation which is Canada.It's mexico due to various reasons that is the lightening rod.But I know of no common currency proposal,its been only taking down trade barriers that I am aware of.And as you know DVC some of the same issues has been experinced in Europe.Germany had issues absorbing the poorer former East Germany.The EU has had some issues over poorer countries like Spain.But it won't take long for that to all work out and I have no doubt all of europe will be better for it.And that in the long run the US would be better off with more integration of the continent.
From an economic standpoint it may be beneficial, but it's subtly turning into a one continental government. And eventually a one world government. I'm Canadian and it scares me to death that one day the US and Canada will basically be the same country. You ever see the back of your dollar bill? New World Order? Come on, I'm sure you've read 1984.
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Watched the youtube link.
All a load of crap. I suppose Elvis will be crowned King of this new super-uber-power and Princess Di will be his bitch.
Where do people come up with this rubbish.
On a lighter side though, those chips. I'm tempted. Least next time I'm off solo climbing, if I slip and die, at least when they find my body they will know it's me. Where do I sign up?
All a load of crap. I suppose Elvis will be crowned King of this new super-uber-power and Princess Di will be his bitch.
Where do people come up with this rubbish.
On a lighter side though, those chips. I'm tempted. Least next time I'm off solo climbing, if I slip and die, at least when they find my body they will know it's me. Where do I sign up?
Will E Worm
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Exactly, it's a bad idea. George Orwell was right.
I've heard my roommate preaching about this and the chip that we're all gonna have implanted under our skin that will allow the government to monitor us. I've also heard a coworker give a very precisely detailed account of all the treaties the government makes with ***** civilizations, and even disclose the exact locations of secret underground bases that the government built for the aliens to operate on Earth.
It's kinda funny how you guys can just say "oh that's bullshit just because I say it's bullshit". Yes a LOT of stuff is overblown and extremely bias like that Michael Moore **** and that makes it easy for you guys to say it's BS. But you have to look at the facts.
I'm not 100% sure that this NAU is what people say it is because it isn't talked about that much. All I see is the youtube video's that everyone else has seen that say the NAU is happening and I don't really see any politicians saying it isn't happening. But I DO ask questions and consider both sides.
It is a FACT that RFID chips are becoming more common. Wal-Mart IS putting them in their clothing, they ARE putting them in passports/ID's, and they HAVE put chips inside close to some 1 million *******. There is no denying that.
No matter what you say you can't deny that there is some sketchy stuff surrounding the 9/11 attacks, invading Afghanastan, and then invading Iraq. Your government IS corrupt.
A lot of what these conspiracy theorists say is BS, but you have to open your eyes to some of the stuff.
I'm not 100% sure that this NAU is what people say it is because it isn't talked about that much. All I see is the youtube video's that everyone else has seen that say the NAU is happening and I don't really see any politicians saying it isn't happening. But I DO ask questions and consider both sides.
It is a FACT that RFID chips are becoming more common. Wal-Mart IS putting them in their clothing, they ARE putting them in passports/ID's, and they HAVE put chips inside close to some 1 million *******. There is no denying that.
No matter what you say you can't deny that there is some sketchy stuff surrounding the 9/11 attacks, invading Afghanastan, and then invading Iraq. Your government IS corrupt.
A lot of what these conspiracy theorists say is BS, but you have to open your eyes to some of the stuff.
I agree on not accepting things at face value and questioning authority.But going off the deep end with theory's of secret society's plotting the takeover of the world is not really going to be constructive eitheir.What was behind 9/11 and those invasions you mention is no secret IMO.9/11 was what the CIA would call "backlash" for american policys in the mid east.And the invasions are about trying to make the perpetators think twice and disrupt their ability to operate at least thats what afghanistan was about I think.Iraq is about a bigger permanent precense for the US military in the oil rich gulf states.Do they say that directly, of course not but it's still not that hard to see IMO.Really one of the biggest problems with beleif in these conspiracy theorys is the idea that anything like that could really exist without a bunch of big mouths who are aware of/part of it writing tell all books about it.
Now on to Michael Moore.While it has been a while since I saw "Roger and me" or "fahrenheit 911" I have recently seen "Sicko".While I guess bias is an opinion that folks can differ on,I can't remember anything that was factually inaccurate in any of those.:dunno:
the north american union is not a conspiracy theory, although it is a favorite topic of discussion for truthers etc. . .
what we have is a conflict of ideologies.
on one side are the globalists and power brokers: central banks, super-rich elites, and think-tanks such as the (dare i say it?) council on foreign relations.
on the other are nationalists, constitutionalists, and the informed middle-class.
it's not a conspiracy, it's a simple plan. it's not secret, although if you want to be marginalized and snickered at, go ahead and talk about it. i guarantee you will be labeled a crackpot and forever ignored.
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what we have is a conflict of ideologies.
on one side are the globalists and power brokers: central banks, super-rich elites, and think-tanks such as the (dare i say it?) council on foreign relations.
on the other are nationalists, constitutionalists, and the informed middle-class.
it's not a conspiracy, it's a simple plan. it's not secret, although if you want to be marginalized and snickered at, go ahead and talk about it. i guarantee you will be labeled a crackpot and forever ignored.
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I think that is the problem,There are the fringe that thinks it some secret plot and not just a debate about whether we should be breaking down national barriers in regions or we should not.That is a very fair thing to debate IMO.And even some of us who favor maybe more integration of our people and economies think you have to worry about trying to not let that just be that we allow work,health,enviormental etc. standards to be relaxed to accomodate the integration.As I said earlier these are the same types of things the europeans have faced with the EU and they with some bumps in the road maybe seem to be still accomplishing it.
WORKERS OF THE WORLD UNITE!:bowdown:
The people need to take back 100% control of the federal reserve from the bankers for starters and abolish the NAU agreement because I don't trust my own government let alone a combined effort of 2 additional governments to run the economy. IMO, a unified system means greater power and eventuality lead to absolute power that corrupts absolutely.
we allready have NAFTA and WTO, things that create an economic "exchange" between the American countries. since immigration is such a huge issue in America, it seems pretty absurd that US Americans would want to "share" it's resources among Mexico and Canada. No offense guys, but from a profit standpoint, we (USA) already get all the things we want and need from those countries, why would we want to throw our hat in with poorer nations? that wouldn't benefit US.
the difference between the EU is that most of the countries have a close relationship in economics and in culture, which is not something that can be said about the Americas, NA in particular.
the difference between the EU is that most of the countries have a close relationship in economics and in culture, which is not something that can be said about the Americas, NA in particular.
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