>>>The Republican Party Is The Problem

[tvstrip]

somehow blaming Democrats for imaginary grievances.

Imaginary? Tell that to all the immigrants are being treated exactly the same way as there were under the trmp admin. Or have you not been keeping up with the news?

 

[xfire]

@xfire are you saying that the Dem party, including their leaders don't LIE, CHEAT & STEAL?

Not typically, sure there are anecdotal incidents, but lying, stealing, and cheating is part of the Republican identity. And sure, immigration is fucked up, but that's not a "democrat" problem.

 

[John_8581]

Not typically, sure there are anecdotal incidents, but lying, stealing, and cheating is part of the Republican identity. And sure, immigration is fucked up, but that's not a "democrat" problem.

Exactly. The only two viable Republican candidates for President are Chris Christie and Asa Hutchinson. Why? Because they aren't "lemmings off the cliff" and they aren't followers of the Fascist cult leader Donald J. Trump. Everyone else is.

As for immigration? Republicans need to look no further than their own backyards. Making immigration worse are governors like Abbott and DeSantis having the migrants shipped up to northern cities, like New York, Philadelphia, Boston and Detroit. And for what? To gain political points with their constituents.

 

[tvstrip]

@John_8581 let's try this again.
Do you see how I can agree with literally everything you said here:

(not the *********** stuff, however this is pretty much accurate. With Donald Trump - add the grift and the con.)

I guess you haven't come across the indicted one -- Rep. George Santos (R - NY's 3rd) - that's ALL he does is LIE, CHEAT, and STEAL.

If you take him and MTG -- they are made for each other. Two A**holes. Like geese on a pond. Afterward, there is just too much green crap everywhere that everyone can't avoid it and you end up with your shoes all ruined.

But then totally disagree with:

THE GOP is the only American pollical party that loves to LIE, CHEAT & STEAL .

 

[Little Red Wagon Repairman]

With all the political tribalism inside this here humble and modest message board store of pornography I'm not sure if we're the Cowboys or the Indians. Who's circling their wagons and who is setting up someone for an ambush? Don't forget to pull your pants up before deciding.

 

[Luxman]

Deception, misdirection, and confusion are often used as tools by corrupt aholes seeking to gain power or influence, as they can be effective in obscuring the truth and manipulating public opinion. It's important to remain vigilant and skeptical, and to seek out reliable sources of information that can help cut through the noise and reveal the underlying reality.

 

[tvstrip]

Not typically, sure there are anecdotal incidents, but lying, stealing, and cheating is part of the Republican identity. And sure, immigration is fucked up, but that's not a "democrat" problem.

Did you forget that one of the most famous example of lying and cheating in modern US political history was by a Dem President?
And immigration became a "democrat" problem when they came into power. How do you not realize that?

Also, I'm not participating in your little "turd throwing competition". If that's how you want to react, then grow the fuck up and make some mature arguments.

 

[tvstrip]

Deception, misdirection, and confusion are often used as tools by corrupt aholes seeking to gain power or influence, as they can be effective in obscuring the truth and manipulating public opinion. It's important to remain vigilant and skeptical, and to seek out reliable sources of information that can help cut through the noise and reveal the underlying reality.

I agree. And just as important to recognize that no party in the US is above using any of these tools.

 

[John_8581]

Did you forget that one of the most famous example of lying and cheating in modern US political history was by a Dem President?

I see. You are correct. Bill Clinton will forever be linked to Monica Lewinsky.

Deception, misdirection, and confusion are often used as tools by corrupt aholes seeking to gain power or influence, as they can be effective in obscuring the truth and manipulating public opinion. It's important to remain vigilant and skeptical, and to seek out reliable sources of information that can help cut through the noise and reveal the underlying reality.

Republicans use it more often. Led by # 45. That's why they are being so sharply criticized in this day and age. Just look at their reactions during January 6th. During the insurrection, Kevin McCarthy came out against the ex-President. As did all the others. However, he's totally flipped as have so many Republicans. To support a fascist like Trump? That's why they are traitors to our Republic. And if you listen to all of their fake rhetoric in the House, especially coming from the MAGAs -- Marjorie Taylor Green and Lauren Boebert -- it truly becomes noise.

 

[John_8581]

Republicans at their best.

Expunging the impeachments of Donald J. Trump ....

https://www.axios.com/2023/06/23/greene-stefanik-trump-impeachment-expunge

I've been a registered Republican my entire life. This is the reason why I'll never vote Republican ever again.

 

[xfire]

Any SANE political party would be more than happy to be rid of a pig like Trump, but these mf'ers still can't get enough.

 

[tvstrip]

Republicans at their best.

Expunging the impeachments of Donald J. Trump ....

https://www.axios.com/2023/06/23/greene-stefanik-trump-impeachment-expunge

I've been a registered Republican my entire life. This is the reason why I'll never vote Republican ever again.

Look at 1 of the 2 people who are bringing forward the motion. She's already on thin ice with the party.
And more important, as the article states:

• It could prove a difficult vote for moderate and swing-district House Republicans who have distanced themselves from, or even openly rebuked, the former president.

Even the article is saying that the vote isn't indicative of the GOP. I would get your concern if this got a lot of votes, but there's no indication of that happening.

 

[Little Red Wagon Repairman]

seek out reliable sources of information that can help cut through the noise and reveal the underlying reality.

What are some trusted information sources that you would recommend for people looking for responsible objective reporting?

 

[tvstrip]

I see. You are correct. Bill Clinton will forever be linked to Monica Lewinsky.

His spouse isn't any better. Let's not forget how the dem's worst enemy is usually themselves - and she was the perfect example of that when she stole the dem nomination - having taken control of the party even before securing the nomination:

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/02/clinton-brazile-hacks-2016-215774/

When you have an open contest without an incumbent and competitive primaries, the party comes under the candidate’s control only after the nominee is certain. When I was manager of Al Gore’s campaign in 2000, we started inserting our people into the DNC in June. This victory fund agreement, however, had been signed in August 2015, just four months after Hillary announced her candidacy and nearly a year before she officially had the nomination.

I had tried to search out any other evidence of internal corruption that would show that the DNC was rigging the system to throw the primary to Hillary, but I could not find any in party affairs or among the staff. I had gone department by department, investigating individual conduct for evidence of skewed decisions, and I was happy to see that I had found none. Then I found this agreement.

The funding arrangement with HFA and the victory fund agreement was not *******, but it sure looked unethical. If the fight had been fair, one campaign would not have control of the party before the voters had decided which one they wanted to lead. This was not a criminal act, but as I saw it, it compromised the party’s integrity.

 

[xfire]

His spouse isn't any better. Let's not forget how the dem's worst enemy is usually themselves - and she was the perfect example of that when she stole the dem nomination - having taken control of the party even before securing the nomination:

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/02/clinton-brazile-hacks-2016-215774/

Any SANE political party would be more than happy to be rid of a pig like Trump, HiLLaRy but US mf'ers can't get enough.

I love Bill and Hillary Clinton, BUT Bill should have been removed from office in '99 and Hillary shouldn't have ran for president in 2016. Joe Biden probably should retire after his 1st term, there would be no shame in it but he's neither a criminal mastermind nor suffering from dementia, both of which he's been accused of by MAGAts.

 

[Supafly]

I'll just leave this here:

...

Hillary Clinton’s State Department has been revealed to be indefensibly unethical. From the Clinton Foundation’s pay-to-play to the highly questionable defenses Clinton used during her FBI investigation, the extent to which similar dirty politics were used to help her win the Democratic primaries merits further attention. After the releases by Wikileaks and Guccifer 2.0, the role in which Nevada—a crucial early voting state—played in stopping Bernie Sanders’ surge against Clinton is brought into light. The undemocratic nature by which Clinton won the Democratic primaries sets a dangerous precedent.

On September 15, former Congressional candidate in Nevada’s fourth district, Dan Rolle, took to Twitter to explain how, starting in 2012, the Nevada Democratic Party began changing the state’s voter registration system as a means to rig the caucuses for Clinton. Most state Democratic parties—including Nevada—moved to NGPVAN database systems, which Rolle says facilitated the monopolization of voter data in favor of Clinton.

“So now, if you are @HillaryClinton and you have @NGPVAN, you know everything about every democrat. Including who WON’T vote for you,” Rolle tweeted. “So how do you fix that? Simple. Vote Builder. A piece of software that can change the state voter file. And you do that with: @NGPVAN”

Rolle attended a fundraising call before the Nevada caucuses, between Clinton Campaign Manager Robby Mook and Nevada Democratic Party donors who were worried she would lose the state, as 70 percent of newly registered voters were expected to support Sanders. According to Rolle, there was a meeting with donors in New York leading up to the Nevada caucus, where donors threatened to pull out.

“I met with Nevada Democratic Party executive board members who told me they were aware of caucus
...

https://observer.com/2016/09/former-democratic-congressional-candidate-says-hillary-stole-nevada/

So, sadly, the opposite side plays foul, too. Not full-blown fascist, like the current GOP, but: Foul

 

[Luxman]

What are some trusted information sources that you would recommend for people looking for responsible objective reporting?

Most anti-Trump sources are trustworthy.

 

[John_8581]

Most anti-Trump sources are trustworthy.

MSNBC is probably the best at this. With Rachel Maddow, Ari Melber, Chris Hayes, Lawrence O'Donnell, Joe Scarborough (who was a long-time Republican in a previous life. Now he's anti-MAGA), Willie Geist, Mika Brzezinski and Neal Katyal. Then you still have The Lincoln Project with Rick Wilson too. Lifelong Republicans who are anti-Trump.

Then there are other places, Brian Tyler Cohen and his colleague Glenn Kirschner, Ben Meiselas and his Meidas Touch crew (Texas Paul, Michael Cohen, Michael Popok, Anthony Davis, and Karen Friedman-Agnifilo).

 

[NYRICAN21]

(not the *********** stuff, however this is pretty much accurate. With Donald Trump - add the grift and the con.)

Hey tv .... have you been living in a closet for six months? Maybe even under a rock?


I guess you haven't come across the indicted one -- Rep. George Santos (R - NY's 3rd) - that's ALL he does is LIE, CHEAT, and STEAL.

If you take him and MTG -- they are made for each other. Two A**holes. Like geese on a pond. Afterward, there is just too much green crap everywhere that everyone can't avoid it and you end up with your shoes all ruined.

GOP = GROUP OF ********* !!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Little Red Wagon Repairman]

Most anti-Trump sources are trustworthy.

By trustworthy do you mean comforting and validating your already pre-conceived opinions? I asked you for objectivity and you offered biased reporting. Try again.