Your thoughts on Obama?

[Rey C.]

Re: So you think the rich should pay more in taxes, huh?

I'm sorry, but I'm not aware of any theory that claims wealthier Americans GENERALLY pay a lower tax rate than lower or middle class Americans. But I am aware of the fact (not a theory) that Mitt Romney's effective tax rate was lower than mine, for the tax years that he's released returns. And I can promise you, his income for those years was substantially higher than mine. Do you have a chart to justify (not explain - I already know why) that?

What people are unhappy about is not some make believe "straw man" generality, but the actuality of certain high earners being able to disguise earned income as other things, and thereby avoid paying the same rates as people with even lower incomes than they have.

Eliminating special interest loopholes and making the IRS code simpler are what people are discussing the most. Well, that's what rational, sane people are discussing. It's hard to say what the wingnuts are pissed about these days. I guess whatever Limbaugh tells them to be pissed about? :dunno:

 

[robot_r0ck]

Re: So you think the rich should pay more in taxes, huh?

Do you go out of your way to be this obtuse?

:1orglaugh

 

[PlasmaTwa2]

Re: So you think the rich should pay more in taxes, huh?

Am I the only one who thinks the least unbelievable thing about this is that Sam created that chart? That's way too much effort to put into an argument on a porn forum. The lady cares too much about what everyone on here thinks, methinks.

 

[Shifty]

Re: So you think the rich should pay more in taxes, huh?

Am I the only one who thinks the least unbelievable thing about this is that Sam created that chart?

No, that fact rang out like a school bell inches from my ear.

 

[StanScratch]

Re: So you think the rich should pay more in taxes, huh?

Am I the only one who thinks the least unbelievable thing about this is that Sam created that chart? That's way too much effort to put into an argument on a porn forum. The lady cares too much about what everyone on here thinks, methinks.

It didn't create the chart. It isn't even intelligent enough to understand what is on the chart, let alone properly spell it.
What it DOES know how to do is cut and paste an article, and hide the link at the bottom, therefor giving people the impression that those big words are its own. Most people put the link at the top of the post, as to not misrepresent. It wants us to think it is a lot more intelligent than it is (and quite a few people have fallen for this ruse).

As for the topic at hand, yeah, it looks pretty. And this is only if we do not take into account little incentives and tax breaks only available to those rich enough to bribe congress to give them tax breaks. Unfortunately, samantha only sees in black and white...mainly, it hates black people.

 

[Mayhem]

Re: So you think the rich should pay more in taxes, huh?

Am I the only one who thinks the least unbelievable thing about this is that Sam created that chart? That's way too much effort to put into an argument on a porn forum. The lady cares too much about what everyone on here thinks, methinks.

I asked him to put his copy/pastes in quote headers but he won't do it. But that's what it is. He copied an article from The Atlantic.

 

[xfire]

Re: So you think the rich should pay more in taxes, huh?

I asked him to put his copy/pastes in quote headers but he won't do it. But that's what it is. He copied an article from The Atlantic.

I told him to put his articles in quote bubbles and he told me "fuck you". I lol'd.

 

[knowone]

Re: So you think the rich should pay more in taxes, huh?

I think they should pay what they did during the Ike Administration, when we had a World War and a Cold War to pay off. Now we have Iraq & Afgan wars and they aren't being paid off!

 

[Rattrap]

Rattrap, that is not such a bad idea. Pull the 3rd lever. Send a message. I like that.

I came up with this shitty election idea years ago. Have a lever that votes for none of the above. If none of the above wins then we have another election with new candidates.

If elections weren't such a circus in the US, I'd be all for that! That said, after voting in the last US presidential election and the last UK general election, I decided I won't vote for either side of a two-party monopoly ever again. Well, you might say: 'That seems dogmatic! What if they actually field a candidate you really agree with?' See Ron Paul (that is to say, a candidate I really agree with will never be elected here).

If you take a look at politicalcompass.org and look at previous elections in the US and elsewhere, you'll notice a trend: all the major parties/parties in power are basically in the fascist quarter. And when you think about it, that makes sense: authoritarian business-buddy governments are the governments with the money to win elections.

 

[bobjustbob]

Yea, It's always going to be a money wins situation. I think if voices are going to be heard it should start at the local level. We get our local school board and town board election ballots and generally ignore these elections. Low voter turn out. It doesn't take more than a few dozen votes to swing many of these elections. Politicians have to start at a bottom and the locals can sort some of these folks out before they rise.

 

[xfire]

Re: So you think the rich should pay more in taxes, huh?

 

[Sam Fisher]

Obama Fail

The short answer: no. The long answer: of course not; are you crazy?

NPR headlines to come:

• Does Stabbing Them In The Back Build Trust Among Allies?
• Does A “Boot On The Neck” Of The Oil Industry Lower Gas Prices?
• Does Allowing A Rabid Racist To Run The Justice Department Make Us More United?
• Does Facilitating Voter Fraud Make Our Democracy Stronger?
• Does A Commander In Chief Who Grovels And Bows To Foreign Leaders Enhance America’s Standing?
• Does Massive Wasteful Spending By The Federal Government Reduce The National Debt?
• Does Shoveling $Billions Upon $Billions Down Farcical Green Energy Boondoggles Improve The Economy?
• Does Funneling Guns To Mexican Drug Cartels Make The Border More Secure?

Et cetera, ad nauseam.

www.moonbattery.com

 

[Trident1]

Re: Obama Fail

If it's from NPR you know it's a turd.

 

[Nester6]

Re: So you think the rich should pay more in taxes, huh?

:surprise:

I asked him to put his copy/pastes in quote headers but he won't do it. But that's what it is. He copied an article from The Atlantic.

Oh right! This fuckin socialist BASTARD believes because I work my ass off, I should pay for welfare immigrant, illegal, bastards!!! Fuck Obama and his socialism!!!!

 

[Sam Fisher]

FUCK OBAMA and anyone who votes for the Socialist sonofabitch!

 

[Straight Shooter]

FUCK OBAMA and anyone who votes for the Socialist sonofabitch!

What makes him socialist? explain please?

 

[robot_r0ck]

FUCK OBAMA and anyone who votes for the Socialist sonofabitch!

Just STFU already with your stupid bullshit you delusional racist idiot......... & get back to suckin' "your daddy's" big black cock. Bitch.

What makes him socialist? explain please?

He can't explain.

 

[Sam Fisher]

Fuck Obama.

Disgusted?

Discuss

 

[Trident1]

Re: Fuck Obama.

He's a failure. His domestic policy is a turd and the only success of his foreign policy has been the drone strikes. As for OBL Bush began the hunt put the pieces together and all Barry did was order the strike then claim he did it on his own.

 

[El Perro Mayor]

Re: Fuck Obama.



You on the extreme right want to take credit for President Obama ordering the killing of Bin Laden, saying that Bush and Cheney had set in motion the actions the find him. Yet Bush said that he didn't even think about Osama any more. His administration had about seven years to find him, and came up empty. President Obama ordered a hit basically saying "Don't shoot him till you see the white of his eyes". He gave that very dangerous order, even going against what his advisers had told him. It would have been so much easier to just send a bunker buster, but then we would have never really known that Bin Laden had been killed.

And the economy the President inherited, is equivalent to a doctor trying to save a patient with stage three cancer. Two unpaid for wars, a tax break ( first time that in a time of war that ever happened ), sending thousands and killing about a million in a war of choice, not of necessity. It took W. Bush eight years to waste the largest financial surplus in this nations history. No administration, be it left or right, be able to change what happened in eight years in only four.