Whole Foods To Stop Unsustainable Wild-Caught Seafood Sales

Mayhem

Banned
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/30/whole-foods-sustainable-seafood_n_1390973.html

Whole Foods Market said Friday that it will stop selling fish caught from depleted waters or through ecologically damaging methods, a move that comes as supermarkets nationwide try to make their seafood selections more sustainable.

Starting Earth Day, April 22, the natural and organic supermarket chain will no longer carry wild-caught seafood that is "red-rated," a color code that indicates it is either overfished or caught in a way that harms other species. The ratings are determined by the Blue Ocean Institute, an advocacy group, and the Monterey Bay Aquarium in California.

Among the seafood disappearing from Whole Foods shelves will be octopus, gray sole, skate, Atlantic halibut and Atlantic cod caught by trawls, which can destroy habitats. The company will stock sustainable replacements like cod caught on lines and halibut from the Pacific.

"In the long term, what we're really looking to do is help reverse trends of overfishing and bi-catch, so that really we can move the industry as a whole toward greater sustainability," said seafood quality standards coordinator Carrie Brownstein. She added that Whole Foods is making the shift a year ahead of its internal deadline.

Retail prices could be higher in some cases in which sustainable suppliers have lower yields.

Whole Foods, which has been strengthening its buying practices for years, is among a number of supermarket chains responding as consumers become more concerned about the sources of their seafood.

In the past month, BJ's Wholesale Club announced a policy to ensure its seafood is sustainable or on track to meet sustainability standards by 2014, and Supervalu announced a comprehensive policy to ensure its farm-raised seafood is sustainable. Supervalu, which operates Albertsons, Shop `n Save and seven other retail brands, also stopped selling six wild-caught species because of sustainability concerns.

The changes have come fast. In 2008, when Greenpeace first published its seafood sustainability scorecard of supermarkets, all 20 of the major chains surveyed failed. Last year, 15 of 20 companies had passing scores, said John Hocevar, the environmental group's oceans campaign director.

"It's pretty impressive to see that it was an issue that really wasn't on most of these companies' radar," Hocevar said, "and with encouragement from us and many others, they really did for the most part step up."

Greenpeace is among a number of private groups that certify or offer guidelines for seafood, meaning consumers sometimes must sort out multiple ratings.

For instance, some Whole Foods seafood will continue to feature labels from the Marine Stewardship Council, which maintains a widely used system that certifies seafood from sustainable fisheries. But Brownstein said the council doesn't assess every fishery, so Whole Foods relies on the color coding for seafood from fisheries not covered by the council. Whole Foods will now only sell green- and yellow-rated seafood, which is more sustainable.

Shrimp, salmon and other seafood grown on farms have yet another separate labeling system.

Hocevar said the profusion of ratings can confuse customers, which is why Greenpeace urges supermarkets to only sell sustainable products.

About fuckin' time. The piss poor state of our oceans has been scaring the crap out of me for some time now. And I should say that one of the reasons why my older brother is only an off-and-on commercial fisherman is because of the piss poor state of the oceans. So this isn't some hippy-dippy tree hugging I'm trying to pull here.

Hopefully, things are getting better out there.
 

xfire

New Twitter/X @cxffreeman
The oceans are dying. I know Paul Watson is too radical for some people, but I've been a supporter of the SSCS for years.
 

L3ggy

Special Operations FOX-HOUND
It's very saddening to see the state of the oceans.
 

squallumz

knows petras secret: she farted.
being an ex-fisherman i gotta say that YES there are areas and fish that need protection and some that are just fine.

there's actually a lot of wrong data to determine population estimates.

for instance, i was there when the fish and game trolled the waters to see how many canary rockfish were around.

the problem: they trolled in the fucking sand.

the problem: rockfish live in the rocks. not the sand.

in all honestly, the ocean is what 95% of the world. there's no way we can fish out the entire thing. its too massive. fisherman stay close to home. you wouldnt believe the amount and cost of fuel (especially now) just to fish. if they go out further, or "explore fish" new areas, their cost goes up and the price of their catch would go up and buyers wont foot the bill.

its a cut-throat business.


also, do you know what we call whole foods here? whole paycheck.

them people are nuts.
 

Rey C.

Racing is life... anything else is just waiting.
Shrimp, salmon and other seafood grown on farms have yet another separate labeling system.

When I spent time in Mississippi on a project, there were catfish farms everywhere. And I do mean EVERYWHERE! I never learned very much about how they were run, but after reading reports about how much of the shrimp raised in southeast Asia are plied with hormones and antibiotics, I no longer eat nearly as much seafood as I used to. Which really sucks, because I love seafood - plus it's good for you (minus the dope they put in the fish to make them grow faster - just like hogs, chicken and cattle).

Luckily enough, in my area, it's still possible to get fruits and vegetables at farmers' markets. And if you want to go in with someone, buying a side of beef or pork from a farmer is still possible too. I should get my lazy ass outside and raise a garden. But I'm just not that ambitious these days. Same reason I don't hunt any longer: it's cold out there in the winter time!
 

Rey C.

Racing is life... anything else is just waiting.
Rep for the Shepherds. :thumbsup:

I'm not anti-Japanese (or anti anybody else, for that matter). But in the way they hunt whales and dolphins, in violation of international law, I do see the Japanese "research" vessels :)rolleyes:) in the EXACT same way that I see poachers who have shot deer on my land without my permission. So yeah, one of my favorite programs over the past couple of years has been Whale Wars. Some of the kids who go out there are goofy and ill-prepared, but I give them massive props for having big hearts (and good souls). Other than the experience, they don't get anything out of it (financially). IMO, that says something.
 

squallumz

knows petras secret: she farted.
at the end of the day, this is all just store promotions.

however, i have to say that fish farming is a great idea.

when done right.


and its not.

like mentioned above, the fish are so crammed pack that they have the treat the fish and water with all sorts of nasties to keep them alive.

its called being greedy. fish do not have to be fin to fin. give them some fucking room.
 

Mayhem

Banned
being an ex-fisherman i gotta say that YES there are areas and fish that need protection and some that are just fine.

there's actually a lot of wrong data to determine population estimates.

for instance, i was there when the fish and game trolled the waters to see how many canary rockfish were around.

the problem: they trolled in the fucking sand.

the problem: rockfish live in the rocks. not the sand.

in all honestly, the ocean is what 95% of the world. there's no way we can fish out the entire thing. its too massive. fisherman stay close to home. you wouldnt believe the amount and cost of fuel (especially now) just to fish. if they go out further, or "explore fish" new areas, their cost goes up and the price of their catch would go up and buyers wont foot the bill.
its a cut-throat business.


also, do you know what we call whole foods here? whole paycheck.

them people are nuts.

There no shortage of monumentally huge catcher/processors that go out there with long lines and/or drift nets and/or trawl nets that, again are truly massive and are truly bringing in too many fish. Not all of these leviathans are legal mind you, but there they are and they have had lasting effects on deep sea fisheries.

I believe that it is not only possible to over fish and deplete our oceans, I think we have been doing it.

at the end of the day, this is all just store promotions.

however, i have to say that fish farming is a great idea.

when done right.


and its not.

like mentioned above, the fish are so crammed pack that they have the treat the fish and water with all sorts of nasties to keep them alive.

its called being greedy. fish do not have to be fin to fin. give them some fucking room.

Look into fish farming before you support it. Currently the Canadian salmon farms are doing waaaay more harm than good. Fish farming may be appropriate for some species/environments (possibly like the aforementioned catfish farms....I dunno), but it's not an end all solution for all fish species.

I somehow got on the email list of a lady named Alexandra Morton who is fighting against the Canadian salmon farms. I'm not trying to rally anyone, I'm saying she deserves to be heard.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandra_Morton

Moreover, Morton has been studying the effects of sea lice on wild salmon populations. By collaborating with international scientists, Morton has documented the loss of the whales, thousands of escaped farm salmon, lethal outbreaks of sea lice, and antibiotic resistance near salmon farms. She has called for further efforts to limit the spread of sea lice and move salmon farms further offshore so they have no impact on wild salmon.

http://alexandramorton.typepad.com/
 

squallumz

knows petras secret: she farted.
no no, you dont understand. i know all about it man. i was in the business. for years.

like i said, farming is a good idea. IDEA.

but its not done right.

there are ways to do it right is what i was trying to say.
 

Mayhem

Banned
Lol. :) Just usin' you to spread me gospel, that's all. I've been getting her emails for a while, and she makes her points very well.
 

squallumz

knows petras secret: she farted.
oh, its all good. trust me, i know whats up. i lost a shit-load of work with emergency closures back in the day. it affects everyone up the chain from fisherman to consumer.

i support environmental thinking, but it doesnt help when the law makers sling errant data to make everyone panic. be honest with the public.


farming for food sustenance is a smart move, but, like fast food, there's no reason it has to be that disgusting.

do it right, dont fuck it up. produce happy and tasty fish, and everyones happy.
 
The oceans are dying. I know Paul Watson is too radical for some people, but I've been a supporter of the SSCS for years.

Rep for the Shepherds. :thumbsup:

I'm not anti-Japanese (or anti anybody else, for that matter). But in the way they hunt whales and dolphins, in violation of international law, I do see the Japanese "research" vessels :)rolleyes:) in the EXACT same way that I see poachers who have shot deer on my land without my permission. So yeah, one of my favorite programs over the past couple of years has been Whale Wars. Some of the kids who go out there are goofy and ill-prepared, but I give them massive props for having big hearts (and good souls). Other than the experience, they don't get anything out of it (financially). IMO, that says something.

Paul Watson, lol. The guy is an attention-whoring douche, and just as big of a criminal as any of the Japanese whalers. Whaling is a part of Japanese culture and Japanese life, what's Paul Watson's excuse for being a criminal? He's been arrested and charged with multiple crimes in relation to his ongoing crusades including: attempted murder (multiple times), espionage, sinking a ship, shipwrecking, trespass and mischief just to name a few. He has a long history of violence, and has been in and out of jail since the early 1970's. He's a radical, and a terrorist.

I guess piracy on the open seas is only intolerable when its Somalis, eh? I wonder, if Somali pirates' stated goals were to save whales, would everyone in the US and around the world look at them so unfavorably?

Fuck whales, anyway.

This is your hero? Really? :1orglaugh
paul-watson-professional-troll.jpg
 

Mayhem

Banned
Paul Watson, lol. The guy is an attention-whoring douche, and just as big of a criminal as any of the Japanese whalers. Whaling is a part of Japanese culture and Japanese life, what's Paul Watson's excuse for being a criminal? He's been arrested and charged with multiple crimes in relation to his ongoing crusades including: attempted murder (multiple times), espionage, sinking a ship, shipwrecking, trespass and mischief just to name a few. He has a long history of violence, and has been in and out of jail since the early 1970's. He's a radical, and a terrorist.

I guess piracy on the open seas is only intolerable when its Somalis, eh? I wonder, if Somali pirates' stated goals were to save whales, would everyone in the US and around the world look at them so unfavorably?

Fuck whales, anyway.

This is your hero? Really? :1orglaugh
paul-watson-professional-troll.jpg

Usually you do pretty good, but swing and a miss on this one. First of all, he ain't my hero. Second of all, whaling is no more a part of Japanese culture and/or tradition than butter churns are a part of ours. Anyone who thinks that there is some DNA-embedded switch which makes whale hunting necessary to the Japanese needs to read a book. They wouldn't have modern whaling if Gen. Douglas Macarthur hadn't recommended its implentation after WWII......because it seemed like a good idea at the time. So whaddya say we dispense with this culture/tradition bullshit once and for all?
 

Rey C.

Racing is life... anything else is just waiting.
Paul Watson, lol. The guy is an attention-whoring douche, and just as big of a criminal as any of the Japanese whalers. Whaling is a part of Japanese culture and Japanese life, what's Paul Watson's excuse for being a criminal? He's been arrested and charged with multiple crimes in relation to his ongoing crusades including: attempted murder (multiple times), espionage, sinking a ship, shipwrecking, trespass and mischief just to name a few. He has a long history of violence, and has been in and out of jail since the early 1970's. He's a radical, and a terrorist.

I guess piracy on the open seas is only intolerable when its Somalis, eh? I wonder, if Somali pirates' stated goals were to save whales, would everyone in the US and around the world look at them so unfavorably?

Fuck whales, anyway.

This is your hero? Really? :1orglaugh
paul-watson-professional-troll.jpg

The only hero I have is my deceased father. And though he'd allow a guy, who was down on his luck, to hunt deer on our land to feed his family (if he asked beforehand), if he caught you poaching deer or trophy hunting (killing a big buck, cutting off the head and leaving the body), you'd probably ask God to send you Paul Watson, rather than have to face down my father. There were times when he scared the hell out of me... and he liked me. To a person he was truly pissed at (who was in the wrong), I can imagine that was a real piss-in-the-pants moment. Having to face down a 6'4" guy, holding a 12 gauge magnum under his arm, probably isn't how a poacher wants to spend the morning. Time to come up with a good lie about how little Jimmy Joe, Jr. hasn't eaten in weeks and your wife ran off with the milkman.

Same with the Japanese. They're pussies for doing what they do and lying about it, in violation of international law. Research, my ass! Fuck 'em!
 
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