US Cartoon of Mexican Flag Draws Ire

I just love politically incorrect, "offensive" language. This, however - according to the 70,000 or so who've voted on it - isn't offensive. I would agree:

(Sept. 4) -- An American cartoonist's rendition of the Mexican flag is causing controversy south of the border, where Mexicans say it's offensive to taint their national symbol with images of drug violence.

Political cartoonist Daryl Cagle's drawing, which ran on the front page of several Mexican newspapers this week, shows what's normally a regal-looking eagle at the center of Mexico's flag riddled with bullets and bleeding. It's a reference to the drug wars that have riled Mexico and left more than 28,000 people dead there in less than four years.

"Editorial cartoonists look for readily recognizable metaphors and that's an obvious one for Mexico," Cagle told CNN.

But some Mexicans say they're offended by the cartoon. Like the American flag, Mexico's banner is a national symbol under which many soldiers and civilians have given their lives. They say Cagle overstepped his creative license in this case.


"It is a shame that a patriotic symbol like our flag, which is so beautiful to me, can be mocked by a stupid cartoonist," one angry reader complained to the Mexican newspaper El Universal. "I think there are many other ways to graphically protest what's happening in our country."

The Mexican Embassy in Washington weighed in on the issue, with a spokesman Ricardo Alday saying Thursday that Mexico "respects and defends freedom of speech and freedom of expression" but "differs" with Cagle "on the use he makes of the Mexican flag and the message it conveys."

In a letter to MSNBC.com, which employs Cagle, Alday said the cartoon "triggered a negative response from some sectors of Mexican public opinion."

On his blog, Cagle acknowledged that many people consider his cartoon "scandalous" and that it "struck a nerve with Mexican readers." He said he's received some "interesting, outraged emails" from readers.

"I think your idea of bringing the violence in Mexico to light is excellent. Too bad you butchered it along with the Mexican Flag," Ramon De Leon wrote on Cagle's blog comments section. "Laws in Mexico with regards to the use and depiction of the flag are in place to prevent this sort of stuff. Please consider taking it down and issuing an apology to the Mexican American community."

Cagle has not yet issued any apology, and newspapers continue to reprint his cartoon despite the controversy. The cartoonist also sought to defend his choice of material as a freedom that comes with his profession.

"National flags are common fodder for editorial cartoonists around the world, so the reaction to this cartoon was surprising to me," Cagle wrote.

The controversy over Cagle's cartoon comes two years after another cartoonist, Barry Blitt, sparked ire over his cover of The New Yorker magazine showing Barack Obama, who was then running for president, and his wife Michelle dressed as Muslim extremists with an American flag burning in a fireplace behind them.

And in 2005, a Danish newspaper published controversial cartoons depicting Islam's prophet Muhammad, igniting protests and violence that left hundreds of people dead across the globe.


Images of Mexico have drawn offense before -- and not always from Mexicans.

In 2008, Absolut Vodka launched a marketing campaign in Mexico that showed a map of North America with several states in the Southwest -- including California, Texas and Arizona -- located inside Mexico.

The states were conquered by the U.S. in a war with Mexico in the mid-19th century.

The company pulled the ad after it received more than 1,000 angry comments on its blog site, with many calling for a boycott of the brand.

Absolut issued a statement saying that the ad, which ran in Mexico only, did not "advocate an altering of borders, nor does it lend support to any anti-American sentiment," Reuters reported.

Last year, Burger King ran an ad for its new Texican Whopper burger that showed a tall American cowboy and a short Mexican wrestler, whose cape resembled the country's flag.

The ad, which ran in Europe, showed the cowboy helping the wrestler reach high shelves and clean tall windows.

A narrator described the burger as "the taste of Texas with a little spicy Mexican."

Mexico's ambassador to Spain, Jorge Zermeno, said the ads "improperly use the stereotyped image of a Mexican," according to The Associated Press.

"In Mexico we have a great deal of respect for our flag," Zermeno said.

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yeah woo shoot the beaners right?
 
An American cartoonist's rendition of the Mexican flag is causing controversy south of the border, where Mexicans say it's offensive to taint their national symbol with images of drug violence.

Mexicans should spend less time worrying about an American artist using the symbols of drug violence to taint their national symbol and worry a lot MORE about their own countrymen tainting their actual country with drug violence.

If they would clean up their own back yard, maybe they wouldn't all be so desperate to come to America.
 
I didn't even know it was a flag. It looked more like a welcome mat to me :dunno:

I don't think that it offensive. It's mildly amusing.

But before all these stars and stripes lovers around Freeones start trotting out "it's our right to free expression, free press" blah blah blah stuff..

Wait til a Mexican cartoonist satirizes the American flag and then we'll see all the same chest thumpers cry out in ~rAge~...

America, land of the double standard...
 
I didn't even know it was a flag. It looked more like a welcome mat to me :dunno:

I don't think that it offensive. It's mildly amusing.

But before all these stars and stripes lovers around Freeones start trotting out "it's our right to free expression, free press" blah blah blah stuff..

Wait til a Mexican cartoonist satirizes the American flag and then we'll see all the same chest thumpers cry out in ~rAge~...

America, land of the double standard...

That's true for all countries. Not just America. People need to get off their high horses and plastic morals.
 

PlasmaTwa2

The Second-Hottest Man in my Mother's Basement
Question: Why the Hell should an American care what Mexicans think of his work? He works in the States, doesn't he?
 

ForumModeregulator

Believer In GregCentauro
If I was Mexico, I would be still pretty pissed about how the US stole all the good land, told them they could stay, but in the end kicked them out and made them live somewhere else.
 

meesterperfect

Hiliary 2020
The answer to illegal immigration, ladies and gentlemen. Round of applause, people.

I didn't even know it was a flag. It looked more like a welcome mat to me :dunno:

I don't think that it offensive. It's mildly amusing.

But before all these stars and stripes lovers around Freeones start trotting out "it's our right to free expression, free press" blah blah blah stuff..

Wait til a Mexican cartoonist satirizes the American flag and then we'll see all the same chest thumpers cry out in ~rAge~...

America, land of the double standard...

why so defensive charlie hustle?
and why can'y you be more like titsrock?

wait a minute! What?
Wait til a Mexican cartoonist satirizes the American flag and then we'll see all the same chest thumpers cry out in ~rAge~...

tits you ignorant slut.
don't you know that almost all mexicans refer to Americans as gringos, a racial slur?
Most have an imbedded racist attitude towards US. Its part of their culture.
I'm sure that their newspapers are just loaded with stuff making fun of or insulting Americans.
We ain't bitchin.
 

Vlad The Impaler

Power Slave
Love it. Motherfuckers around the world can talk shit about us and burn our flag. Fuck you! I hope this guy stands his ground and doesn't fall over himself trying to back track like all the bleeding heart, assembly line, politically correct, panty wearing, pussies will demand that he do.
 
don't you know that almost all mexicans refer to Americans as gringos, a racial slur?
Most have an imbedded racist attitude towards US. Its part of their culture.
I'm sure that their newspapers are just loaded with stuff making fun of or insulting Americans.
We ain't bitchin.

I think this is spot on. I really believe Mexicans loathe white gringos. As far as if I'd be pissed if they degraded our colors, I guess it depends on the context. When they had their little spiel back aroun '06-'07 and were blatantly giving the collective American the finger by waving their flags while taunting us in our streets, that surely pissed me off more than anything.

And yeah, if you want to see how tolerant Mexicans are, this example was pretty spot on:

 
That's profoundly retarded.

Don't take my word for it:

"The border remains a military zone. We remain a hunted people. Now you think you have a destiny to fulfill in the land that historically has been ours for forty thousand years. And we're a new Mestizo nation. And they want us to discuss civil rights. Civil rights. What law made by white men to oppress all of us of color, female and male. This is our homeland. We cannot - we will not- and we must not be made illegal in our own homeland. We are not immigrants that came from another country to another country. We are migrants, free to travel the length and breadth of the Americas because we belong here. We are millions. We just have to survive. We have an aging white America. They are not making babies. They are dying. The explosion is in our population. They are shitting in their pants with fear, I love it!"

http://www.americanpatrol.com/REFERENCE/JoseAngelGutierrezQuote.html
 
Don't take my word for it:


"The border remains a military zone. We remain a hunted people. Now you think you have a destiny to fulfill in the land that historically has been ours for forty thousand years. And we're a new Mestizo nation. And they want us to discuss civil rights. Civil rights. What law made by white men to oppress all of us of color, female and male. This is our homeland. We cannot - we will not- and we must not be made illegal in our own homeland. We are not immigrants that came from another country to another country. We are migrants, free to travel the length and breadth of the Americas because we belong here. We are millions. We just have to survive. We have an aging white America. They are not making babies. They are dying. The explosion is in our population. They are shitting in their pants with fear, I love it!"

http://www.americanpatrol.com/REFERENCE/JoseAngelGutierrezQuote.html

America just manages to piss off everybody in one form or another.:cool:
 
America just manages to piss off everybody in one form or another.:cool:

Maybe so, but according to Jose Angle Gutierrez it's not America that has violated Mexico, it's white America. Actually, considering the war of 1848 was all white, he's correct, but his rants do nothing to help his cause. If nothing else, white folks view him and see how extreme some of the advocates for unmitigated immigration really are. Thanks, Jose.
 
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