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UK : great election victory for the Conservatives

David Cameron on track to remain PM after electoral triumph

Conservatives head towards overall majority in UK general election as swings to Labour fail to materialise and Lib Dems face huge losses


David Cameron is on course to SECURE an astonishing electoral triumph as the Conservative party headed towards an overall majority and unseated a raft of senior political opponents including the Labour shadow chancellor, Ed Balls, and the Lib Dem business secretary, Vince Cable.

The result – devastating Labour and the Liberal Democrats, and leaving Scotland a near one-party state under the control of the Scottish National party – probably represents the biggest surprise in a general election since 1945.

Cameron is to head to Buckingham Palace at 12.30pm to meet the Queen and is expected to make a statement on his return to Downing Street.

On a night of heavy losses, Balls, Douglas Alexander, the Labour election chief, and Jim Murphy, the Scottish Labour leader, were among the senior party figures to lose their seats. A roll-call of Liberal Democrat ministers, including Cable, were also defeated, leaving a forlorn Nick Clegg to admit it had been a cruel and punishing night. Clegg narrowly survived in his own Sheffield Hallam seat but will return to Westminster to meet fewer than 10 fellow MPs, down from 57.

Across the Midlands, Scotland and even in London, the swings Labour needed in order to make gains simply failed to appear, and far from a swing to Labour, the results revealed the Conservative party strengthening its vote. The current predictions suggest Cameron will have a small majority, with his party on course to have around 329 seats.

Ed Milband, speaking from Doncaster, effectively conceded defeat as he said he was “deeply sorry” about the result.

He said: “The results are still coming in, but this has clearly been a very disappointing and difficult night for the Labour party. We haven’t made the gains we wanted in England and Wales, and in Scotland we’ve seen a surge of nationalism overwhelm our party. Now, I want to say to all the dedicated and decent colleagues in Scotland who have lost their seats that I am deeply sorry for what has happened.”

He made no mention of his own leadership but is heading for Westminster to await the rest of the results. It was expected that Miliband would announce plans to resign on Friday morning, but he may stay on as an interim leader in the manner of Michael Howard to mount an effective opposition while the party mounts an inquest.

It has been argued that a weakened party should not immediately turn in on itself with a divisive leadership contest, something that in 2010 gave room for the Conservatives to shape the political debate.

If the exit poll is borne out in the final Westminster tally, Cameron may be able to govern without the need for the support of the devastated Liberal Democrats or even the Democratic Unionists in Northern Ireland.

However, Cameron is facing the very serious challenge of how to unite the UK after such a comprehensive victory by the Scottish National party in Scotland, where it won all but three seats.

Speaking from his Witney seat in Oxfordshire, Cameron said it had been a “very strong night” for the Conservatives, showing there had been a “positive response to a positive campaign”.

Despite having warned against the threat of Scottish nationalism in Westminster during the campaign, he said now was the time to mend divisions between England and Scotland.

“Above all, I want to bring our country together, our United Kingdom, implementing as fast as we can devolution both for Wales and Scotland,” he said. “I want my party and a government I would like to lead to reclaim the mantle of one nation, one United Kingdom. That is how I will govern if I am fortunate enough to form a government.”

Boris Johnson, newly returned for Uxbridge, suggested a radical possibility for the union, saying: “I am sure there is scope for a federal offer to be made to Scotland.”

However, George Osborne, the chancellor, told BBC Radio 4’s Today programme that the offer to Scotland would not go beyond the proposals for devolution set out in the Smith Commission.

He said that governing for the whole of the UK would be one of the very big challenges all MPs would face and there was no simple and easy answer.

While Cameron and Osborne were stressing the need to bring the UK together, their political rivals accused them of having put the union at risk.

Balls, having lost his seat in Morley and Outwood, said he now feared for the union, the UK’s future in the European Union and the state of the NHS over the next five years.

The result would appear to be a total vindication of Cameron’s decision to campaign on the threat posed to England by a Miliband government dependent on the support of the Scottish National party.

On a night of carnage for Labour, made worse by the expectations raised by optimistic opinion polls, Miliband appeared to have performed worse than Gordon Brown, losing as many as 20 seats held in 2010.

In a seismic result that brings Scottish independence closer, Labour held on to just one seat in Scotland with the SNP winning all but three of the 59 seats north of the border. Douglas Alexander, the shadow foreign secretary, was the most prominent casualty – losing on a 34% swing to the SNP from Labour, destroyed by a 20-year-old student, Mhairi Black. Alexander said Scotland had chosen to oppose the Conservative government but not to place its trust in Labour.

A second casualty was the Scottish Labour leader, Murphy, who in a dignified concession speech said the troubles facing the Scottish Labour party for many years could not be rectified in five short months. He made clear he would like to continue to lead Scottish Labour.

A shellshocked Labour at first challenged the accuracy of the exit poll, but started to admit as the night wore on that it was broadly accurate. David Blunkett, the former Labour cabinet minister, said: “The exit polls were right, it’s a very bad night for us. We are being swept by the tsunami north of the border.”

But Labour also failed to win key target seats in the Midlands, north-west and Yorkshire, as Ukip voters went to the Conservatives, depriving the party of the swings it needed. In the south, in seats such as Southampton and Swindon, the Lib Dem vote collapsed but did not go to Labour. Miliband’s staff blamed the SNP leader Nicola Sturgeon’s rhetoric vowing to hold sway over a Labour minority government drove English voters back into the arms of the Conservatives. “She ended up in an alliance with the Conservative party,” one said.

Sturgeon was unrepentant, blaming Labour’s failure to win seats in England. She said: “What we’re seeing tonight is Scotland voting to put its trust in the SNP to make Scotland’s voice heard, a clear voice for an end to austerity, better public services and more progressive politics at Westminster. That’s what we now intend to do.” She also repeated her reassurance that the election had not been about Scottish independence.

Alex Salmond said a Scottish lion had roared. But SNP plans to combine with Miliband to lock Cameron out of Downing Street are now redundant.

The initial exit poll projection, greeted with gasps of disbelief, left the Tories 77 seats ahead of Labour, with the combined Labour-SNP tally on 297, still behind the Conservatives. Labour had been hoping the Tories could be pinned back to 280 or 290, enough to block Cameron’s path to securing a majority for a Tory Queen’s speech.

As the night continued, it became apparent that the exit poll may have underestimated the scale of the Tory triumph and the Conservatives were on the brink of an outright majority.

The Liberal Democrats fell as low as 10 seats, beyond their worst nightmare and taking the party back to the Liberals’ status in the 1970s. Clegg,who in 2010 took the party into coalition with the Conservatives, is almost certain to resign at some point on Friday and faces ridicule after he had claimed his party was going to be the surprise success story of the night.

Tim Farron, one of the Lib Dems tipped to succeed Clegg, said he believed fear had won the day, both sides of the border. He insisted Clegg “had done a blinding job”, arguing that Clegg had formed the coalition in the national interest, knowing it was not in the party’s interest.

A cast list of famous Liberal Democrats were defeated including Cable, Danny Alexander, the chief secretary to the Treasury, , former leader Charles Kennedy, education minister David Laws, the energy secretary, Ed Davey, the justice minister, Simon Hughes, the business minister, Jo Swinson, the Home Office minister, Lynn Featherstone, and the veteran Colchester MP Sir Bob Russell. The results suggested the idea that Liberal Democrat MPs would benefit from their incumbency and campaigning track record proved to be a myth.

Ukip was expected to collect two seats, and Nigel Farage, facing a high turnout, was struggling to overcome a tactical vote against him in South Thanet. If he loses, he has said he will quit politics, despite the signs that Ukip was positioning itself as second behind Labour across the north.

An angry Farage said: “I want to congratulate the editors of the Sun and Mail. They’re geniuses. They said the Ukip vote would split the Tory vote. God help us.”

The astonishing nature of the result was partly due to the exit poll being so far out of line with national opinion polls that had showed the two main parties neck and neck, and if anything Labour benefiting from a late surge.

The results were greeted with euphoria at Conservative headquarters. The chief whip, Michael Gove, told the BBC that if the exit poll was accurate it would be the first time a government had increased its majority since 1983 and would represent an unprecedented vote of confidence in Cameron.

He said: “If it is the case that the exit poll is right, then David Cameron has won a very handsome victory in this election. He will have secured both an advance on seats and outperformed the expectation of almost every commentator.”

Gove said the path was set for a stable government, adding that Cameron now had a mandate to press ahead with a referendum on UK membership of the European Union by 2017.

Miliband had led a campaign promising a more equal society, and if he has lost net seats, albeit largely due to the Labour wipeout in Scotland, he will be under pressure to resign. Some of his aides were preparing to argue that he may need to stay if Cameron had only a fragile majority and there was a possibility of a second election. But he will have been decisively rejected and the task of Labour rebuilding in Scotland will be gargantuan.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics...ves-win-david-cameron-general-election-labour
 

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I should read up on how the system of government is run in England...wonder if it's like Canada?
The Canadian system of government is really complicated...kinda wish it was like the Americans.
 
I should read up on how the system of government is run in England...wonder if it's like Canada?
The Canadian system of government is really complicated...kinda wish it was like the Americans.

I'm the opposite. I wish we had a parliamentary system of government. The elections in the UK are short and to the point while here in the U.S we go through a long drawn-out election season with numerous debates on both sides. The 2016 election is 18 months away and already we have candidates running. It's ridiculous. In the UK, they only had one debate during this election and unlike in the U.S the UK has very strict rules when it comes to running political ads. The biggest difference though is that there isn't big money in UK politics so you don't get that hyper saturation that we get in here in the U.S.
 
I should read up on how the system of government is run in England...wonder if it's like Canada?
The Canadian system of government is really complicated...kinda wish it was like the Americans.

As far as I know, in England the people elect the Members of Parliament (MP) forming the House of Commons. Then the MPs propose a Prime Minister to the King (or th Queen) to be appointed.
Once appointed, the Prime Minister nominates the different minister o the Government.
The the roles of the government and the House are about the same as in any Democracy (just change "House" for "Congress" and Prime Minister for "President").

The royal family has almost no real power. Same goes for the "House of Lords".
 

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As far as I know, in England the people elect the Members of Parliament (MP) forming the House of Commons

Pretty much the same in Canada. Thanks for the info. Got some reading to do on the roles of government in Canada.
Do you know how Russia is run?
 
Pretty much the same in Canada. Thanks for the info. Got some reading to do on the roles of government in Canada.
Do you know how Russia is run?
With an iron first!
 
I'm the opposite. I wish we had a parliamentary system of government. The elections in the UK are short and to the point while here in the U.S we go through a long drawn-out election season with numerous debates on both sides. The 2016 election is 18 months away and already we have candidates running. It's ridiculous. In the UK, they only had one debate during this election and unlike in the U.S the UK has very strict rules when it comes to running political ads. The biggest difference though is that there isn't big money in UK politics so you don't get that hyper saturation that we get in here in the U.S.

Not only is there big money in UK politics, but American political operatives like David Axelrod have been brought over by worried left wing elites...looks like it didn't work! Hahaha.

If they could, the British parties with big pockets would saturate TV with ads, but they cannot do that.

As for debates, they should have multiple debates seeing that there are usually at least 3 competitive parties all vying for debate time in the UK. It's crazy that voters don't get at least 3 debates featuring party heads.
 
Not only is there big money in UK politics, but American political operatives like David Axelrod have been brought over by worried left wing elites...looks like it didn't work! Hahaha.

If they could, the British parties with big pockets would saturate TV with ads, but they cannot do that.

As for debates, they should have multiple debates seeing that there are usually at least 3 competitive parties all vying for debate time in the UK. It's crazy that voters don't get at least 3 debates featuring party heads.

Many former Obama operatives were involved in this years election. Axelrod was an advisor for Labour. Jim Messina, Obama's campaign manager, advised the Conservatives. Reggie Love, his former body man, helped the Conservatives run their social media campaign. This is very common. Americans have long worked on both sides of the British aisle
 
Pretty much the same in Canada. Thanks for the info. Got some reading to do on the roles of government in Canada.
Do you know how Russia is run?
1) Putin says what he wants for Russia,
2) Some minister writes a bill,
3) The Duma votes it,
4) Putin signs it into law,
5) Fox News tells how much Putin is better than Obama.
 
Do you believe Putin was responsible for the death of Anna Politkovskaya?
Absolutely.
I'm not sure wether he asked some FSB agents to do it or he asked Ramzan Kadyrov (puppet-president of Chechnya) to have it done or Kadyrovafter having received Putin's authorisation but I'm 100% that, at the minimum, Putin knew about it and agreed.

Putin's big on killing journalists and jailing political opponents.
 

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Absolutely.
I'm not sure wether he asked some FSB agents to do it or he asked Ramzan Kadyrov (puppet-president of Chechnya) to have it done or Kadyrovafter having received Putin's authorisation but I'm 100% that, at the minimum, Putin knew about it and agreed.

Putin's big on killing journalists and jailing political opponents.

Well I guess i'm part of the minority (prolly the only one who disagree) but a lot and I mean a lot of ppl feel Putin was responsible for her death but there's no evidence with his involvement in the murder...Funny how Politkovskaya passed on Putin's bday...pretty eerie but she was a big time Putin hater. I think Putin had no involvement in her passing but that's just me...

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Mind your own fucked up country.

That's a pretty rude thing to say...
 
Moscow has had big Muslim population force decades. The false flag allegations are just nonsense, theirs no evidence to support that claim. The Chechens committed other large scale attacks after that bombing like the Beslan school massacre. Ramzan Kadyrov is not a puppet. Kadyrov has the support of most of Chechnya's clans, so fighting has lowed to a snails pace in Chechnya. Kaydrov has proven his worth to Putin, and he basically get whatever he wants from Putin. Chechnya has de facto sharia law. Russia cannot be to hard on Chechens anymore. Muslim Russian Tatars, Bashkirs, and Avars have been mostly been loyal to Russia during the Chechen Wars. Many Russians hated Boris Nemtsoy, and thought he was a hypocrite. Nemstov was part the Yeltsin government which set Russia's current system which is very corrupt. Russian journalist died at a much higher rate during Boris Yeltsin's Presidency. Putin's a thug, but he easily has the backing of the Russian people. Putin's United party control's the 4 most powerful political offices in Russia, so Putin can rubber stamp the vast majority of his bills through the Duma. Most Putin's political opponents are small time figures. Most of Russia's major political leaders are members of the United Russia party.
 
Absolutely sure that Putin is behind Politkovskaya's killing? Wow guys! Good for you! Mind to share some evidence, please? I'm sure CIA and not only would cover you in gold.

The dangers to journalists in Russia have been well known since the early 1990s, but concern at the number of unsolved killings soared after Anna Politkovskaya's murder in Moscow on 7 October 2006. While international monitors spoke of several dozen deaths, some sources within Russia talked of over two hundred fatalities.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_journalists_killed_in_Russia#2012

I wonder how one might react to such numbers if they were being produced in their own back yard; like in Spain, for instance.

forbes.com
As the murders of Russian journalists go unsolved, there are increasing signs that the impunity of Russia’s contract killers is not accidental. One reason for the lack of progress may be that the law enforcement organs that are responsible for investigating the murders of Russian journalists are actually involved in carrying them out.

The involvement of law enforcement officers in contract killings should be a momentous scandal, but the elimination of independent centers of power in Russia under Prime Minister (and former president) Vladimir Putin has created a situation in which the organs of law enforcement are integrated into the corrupt oligarchies that run the country. When the interests of those oligarchies are threatened by independent reporting, law enforcement is unable to restrain corrupt interests and is often in league with them. As a result, contract killers function as the ultimate censors.

Oh that's just silly. Pure speculation and hyperbole. I'm sure the stunning epidemic of journalist deaths under Putin in Russia has nothing to do with him at all :angels:

Probably the Russian people are just driven into a murderous rage when their paper boys deliver to the wrong address :rolleyes:
 
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