U.S. Space Force

there are those laughing at President Trump over this but at one point in our history the U.S. Air Force was the U.S. Army Air Corps.

And the next war between superpowers will also be fought in space.
 
You mean, US Space Farce, right ?



- July 1969 : VP Spiro Agnew says he want to send men or Mars "before the yeear 2000"
- January 2004 : President Georges W. Bush announces he want americans back on the Moon by 2015 in, order to prepare a man mission towards Mars by 2020
- April 2010 ; President Obama says Americans going back to the Moon is no longer a project, claims he wants to send American astronauts to Mars around 2035


Sorry no ot trust Tru on this but the US government has been promising us Mars for now nearly 50 years...
 
you've totally missed the point. The U.S. Space Force would not be about space exploration but another branch of the military. See China and Russia.

the next world war will be waged in part in orbit involving satellites including that kinetic weapon in that video I posted.
 
the next world war will be waged in part in orbit involving satellites

I really don't think so. Unless you're talking about orbiting nuclear offensive and defensive satellite systems, which don't require being manned, hence no need for a space force.

A hot war between nuclear powers, if there is one, will likely be over within a couple of hours, no matter how many ships, planes and armies each side has.
 
the next world war will be waged in part in orbit involving satellites

I really don't think so. Unless you're talking about orbiting nuclear offensive and defensive satellite systems, which don't require being manned, hence no need for a space force.

A hot war between nuclear powers, if there is one, will likely be over within a couple of hours, no matter how many ships, planes and armies each side has.

no one said anything about manned. and this would be a conventional war between nuclear powers. Once it goes nuclear, it's all a moot point.

There's already a U.S. Air Force Space Command. This would be dedicating an entire branch to that mission.
 
You mean, US Space Farce, right ?



- July 1969 : VP Spiro Agnew says he want to send men or Mars "before the yeear 2000"
- January 2004 : President Georges W. Bush announces he want americans back on the Moon by 2015 in, order to prepare a man mission towards Mars by 2020
- April 2010 ; President Obama says Americans going back to the Moon is no longer a project, claims he wants to send American astronauts to Mars around 2035


Sorry no ot trust Tru on this but the US government has been promising us Mars for now nearly 50 years...

I was for it but now I'm against. Sure let's just add more bureaucracy because of course there isn't enough in DoD. Aren't Republicans supposed to be against this kind of shit? Mattis doesn't even want it. That's good enough for me. Lord knows he's the only sensible voice left in this administration
 
Mattis doesn't even want it. That's good enough for me. Lord knows he's the only sensible voice left in this administration

Amen to that. But I don't think it's too likely he'll still be the SOD in 2019.

no one said anything about manned. and this would be a conventional war between nuclear powers. Once it goes nuclear, it's all a moot point.

Yeah I think it's all but inevitable it would go nuclear.
 

Some of the uneducated blue collar types at least have a reason to be uninformed, What’s America’s youngest and brightest excuse?
 
you've totally missed the point. The U.S. Space Force would not be about space exploration but another branch of the military. See China and Russia.
My bad, I actually thought Trump would make america great again, that he had plan to restore's america as a country that pushes the limits of mankind, that inspires and amazes people all around the globe, that dares to go where no man has gone before.

But his plan is just to bomb foreign countries from low orbit...


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My bad, I actually thought Trump would make America great again, that he had plan to restore's America as a country that pushes the limits of mankind, that inspires and amazes people all around the globe, that dares to go where no man has gone before.

But his plan is just to bomb foreign countries from low orbit...


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You still have time to edit that. I'll edit out the quote if you do.

edit: time's up.
 
July 6, 2018

The Greatest Threat to America's Military? A 'Pearl Harbor' In Space.

On June 18, President Trump directed the Pentagon to create a Space Force. But only Congress has the authority to reorganize or create a military service. The Space Force decision will be made after deliberations by the Pentagon, Congress and other stakeholders separately and jointly.

This monumental reorganization of the military space enterprise would begin to yield benefits in the 2040s. That would be fine, as good things are worth the wait, provided no seriously bad event happens before then. Unfortunately, the threat of a space Pearl Harbor will emerge stealthily in the early 2020s in the guise of dual-use spacecraft for which we are ill-prepared. If we do not deter this devastating threat of the 2020s, the well-intentioned Space Force of the 2040s would be too little too late.

The hectic deliberations on the Space Force must first consider the far more urgent peril of a space Pearl Harbor. The strategies we utilize to deter and counter this emerging threat will form a solid foundation upon which the United States can decide how and when to create a Space Force to best keep peace in space for the 2030s and beyond.

Ever since the Rumsfeld Commission sounded the alarm of a space Pearl Harbor in 2001, many have cried wolf with similar concerns. What makes the emerging threat a real concern this time around is a combination of the requirement of specialized dual-use spacecraft for peaceful purposes and the lack of space arms control. By the early 2020s, China will deploy these worker-bee spacecraft to clean up space debris and service existing satellites. The U.S., Russia, and the European Union will do the same in a similar timeframe. Since a worker bee can grab hold of space debris or a satellite for service, it can certainly grab hold of a U.S. satellite with a stronger force to destroy it. A worker bee is a slow flyer and would take days or even months to move from some far away orbits to within its robotic arm’s reach in order to attack a satellite. However, there is currently no international agreement to block worker bees from sidling up to our satellites or negate their anti-satellite potency in order to prevent attack on our targeted satellites. If we did, we would be condemned as the aggressor, one who denies another country’s satellites freedom of passage or harms them. China or Russia could deploy an outsized fleet of, say, fifty to one hundred worker bees in peacetime with some stationed at such close distance that they can further move, within days or even far less, into even closer tailgating or stalking positions. Once they are at these positions, they can, upon command and at a moment’s notice, attack our satellites from such close proximity that we will have no time to mount a defense, a situation that can facilitate a space Pearl Harbor to destroy an intolerable number of our critical satellites near-simultaneously.

Credit for the most convincing arguments for the creation of a Space Force goes to Douglas Loverro , not just because he said that “space is too critical for the nation’s defense not to have an organization that speaks for its importance, defends it against all comers, and jealously advocates for new missions and new responsibilities”, but also because his insider experience while serving as the Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense, Space Policy during 2013–2017 adds authenticity and seriousness to the problems he pointed out about status quo. Rick Fisher , a senior fellow at the International Assessment and Strategy Center and one of the leading experts on weaponry and military threats in space said that “Trump is doing a very good thing [in creating a Space Force],” and that “in 25 years Americans will be very grateful that we have a Space Force.” Even an ardent proponent predicts a timeline of twenty-five years to see significant benefits, and I do not know of any space analyst or officer that expects the Space Force to yield benefits, including better deterrence or defense against space threats, within the first fifteen years, including 2020s. Therefore, proactively addressing our vulnerabilities in the 2020s must be part of the Space Force deliberation.

Just a week before President Trump made the Space Force announcement, Air Force Secretary Heather Wilson met with the service’s senior commanders and concluded that “this will happen, but now is not the time.” She certainly did not rule out a future Space Force separated from the Air Force just as the Air Force became independent from the Army in 1947. The creation of a Space Force is not a matter of whether but a matter of when, but this military space service reorganization is not meant to handle the 2020s’ threats better than the status quo. At present, not enough is being done in preparation to counter these near-future dangers. We must explicitly recognize the looming threat of a space Pearl Harbor and add its prevention into the Space Force deliberations. The following four actions are ready to be taken now to start the process of countering the 2020s’ threats and those beyond.

read the four actions here: http://nationalinterest.org/blog/bu...as-military-pearl-harbor-space-25142/page/0/1

President Trump is being proactive in his call for a Space Force. He's looking decades ahead, as are the Chinese and Russians.

Navel-gazing pussies in our country working for Google refuse to work on AI for the U.S. military, meanwhile, China is going full speed ahead on that front.
 
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