U.S Government Is Secretly Collecting Phone Records of Verizon Customers

The National Security Agency obtained a court order to collect the call records of millions of Verizon customers, according to a secret document obtained by the Guardian.

The sweeping order, issued by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, requires Verizon to give the NSA metadata on all calls within the U.S. and between the U.S. and foreign countries on an “ongoing, daily basis” for three months.

The data includes the phone numbers of both parties involved in the calls, the International Mobile Subscriber Identity (IMSI) number for mobile callers, calling card numbers used in the call, and the time and duration of the calls. It does not include the name or address of the subscriber or other account information, nor does it allow the content of calls to be recorded and collected. It may, however, include the location of the calls through cell site data.

The classified order was issued to the FBI by the secretive court on April 25 and allows the government to collect data until July 19 and hand it over to the NSA. The order came with a gag requirement that prevents Verizon from disclosing its existence. It covers only Verizon, and it’s not clear if other phone companies received similar orders.

The document reveals for the first time that the NSA is continuing to do massive datamining on millions of U.S. citizens under the Obama administration — a practice that spawned extensive criticism after it was first exposed in 2006 as part of a secret Bush Administration program that began in the wake of the 9/11 terrorist attacks.

The dragnet collection of data would allow the government to build a massive database of transactional records to map connections and relationships between callers. Although Verizon is not required to hand over caller subscriber information under the order, this doesn’t mean the NSA can’t identify the owners of phone numbers on its own. Intelligence and data collected from other sources can help match the names of accountholders to the numbers collected in the sweep.

“From a civil liberties perspective, the program could hardly be any more alarming,” Jameel Jaffer, deputy legal director for the American Civil Liberties Union said in a statement. “It’s a program in which millions of innocent people have been put under the constant surveillance of government agents. It’s analogous to the FBI stationing an agent outside every home in the country to track who goes in and who comes out.”

The law under which the records are being obtained is the “business records” provision of the controversial Patriot Act, which was passed following the 9/11 terrorist attacks. Although an amendment to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act in 2008 allowed the government to conduct bulk collection of all e-mails, phone calls and text messages, this involved only communications where one party to the conversation was thought to be overseas.

The court order for Verizon covers all wholly domestic communications as well, which may be why authorities used the Patriot Act provision in this case.

According to the Guardian Senators Ron Wyden (D-Oregon) and Mark Udall (D-Colorado), members of the Senate Intelligence Committee, have been trying to warn the public for the last two years about the Obama administration’s secret and extreme interpretations of the business records provision to justify stunning levels of domestic surveillance, but have been unable to do so directly.

USA Today first reported in 2006 that the NSA had been “secretly collecting the phone call records of tens of millions of Americans, using data provided by AT&T, Verizon and BellSouth” in order to produce and analyze calling patterns.

“It’s the largest database ever assembled in the world,” one anonymous source told the paper at the time, saying that the NSA’s goal was “to create a database of every call ever made” within the nation’s borders.

Bell South categorically denied the story at the time, but Verizon and AT&T delivered carefully parsed statements that left open the question of whether they had provided the NSA with data.

The recent court order suggests that the collection has continued or at least resumed under the Obama administration.
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/06/nsa-verizon-call-records/

One thing I'll say about this, if you supported the Patriot Act from it's inception you cannot complain about this. The Patriot Act allows the president to do this, it gives him broad sweeping powers to combat terrorism
 

xfire

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http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/06/nsa-verizon-call-records/

One thing I'll say about this, if you supported the Patriot Act from it's inception you cannot complain about this. The Patriot Act allows the president to do this, it gives him broad sweeping powers to combat terrorism

Before I even opened this thread I was thinking something along those lines. It's a moot point this far removed from when the Patriot Act was passed, that shit's been going on since the Patriot Act passed, and was probably going on before.
 

Mr. Daystar

In a bell tower, watching you through cross hairs.
I have Verizon....if I thought for one second I wouldn't go to jail, I would drive to their headquarters, and shove my phone down the bosses throat.

Right after it came from his ass!
 
There is also little reason to logically think that all the other major communication companies weren't under a similar order. Basically that means the government has probably been secretly collecting extensive data on pretty much every phone call in this country for years now.


With all the shady things coming out about the Obama administration recently things have moved enough to where it's not just the territory of some delusion of paranoid nuts that think he's out to get them. Too much has happened to be able to excuse.


I also wonder what people thought was going to happen when something like the Patriot Act came out. Did they just blindly except the governments "trust us" attitude, and think they would never be caught up in it, despite being innocent and the government having no reasonable cause to collect evidence against them?
 

HansMoleman

Chief Porn Collector
There is also little reason to logically think that all the other major communication companies weren't under a similar order. Basically that means the government has probably been secretly collecting extensive data on pretty much every phone call in this country for years now.

Especially since the Patriot Act. And yeah, I'm thinking the same thing. No reason they would only go after Verizon records. They had to have sent orders to all the major carriers.
 
I'm not sure, but I think during the Bush years, they only (so they said) tapped into known terrorists, suspected terrorists and or, terrorist wannabes who made calls to and from the United States.

Either way, I'm no fan of The Patriot Act.
 
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/06/nsa-verizon-call-records/

One thing I'll say about this, if you supported the Patriot Act from it's inception you cannot complain about this. The Patriot Act allows the president to do this, it gives him broad sweeping powers to combat terrorism

The Patriot Act is fear-based fascist enabling legislature. I much rather see it being interpreted by democratic rather than republican leadership, but make no mistake, Americans are in danger as long as the Patriot Act, or any other legislature exists that seeks to sacrifice Americans' civil liberties for "safety".
 

bobjustbob

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Admittedly I bought into The Patriot Act. I thought that the left with their civil liberty obsessions would keep this stuff in check. Wrong I was. This phone records and news gathering shit has been going on for the past 6 years too with the left in charge. What the fuck is going on here? The boys upstairs from both sides are saying fuck you to the people. Both of these policies are clearly overreaching. We are not afraid to spend money on intelligence. After all, our country should protect it's people first and foremost. They have been doing a great job in that respect. But to say that they need every form of communications from us to do that job is just plain bullshit. Not just from a violation of freedom of privacy stance, but from a useless gathering and sifting of records. Come on guys, put together a better watch list. To think that everyone at my coming July 4th BBQ needs to be in a database so they may analyze the gathering people is necessary is ludicrous. I'm glad this came out and we should ask our legislators questions about it. Get the answers and vote the bullshitters out in November.
 
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