Trump to Pence : overturning Roe vs Wade would be "a waste of time"

[Johan]

Donald Trump Mocks Mike Pence For Wanting to ‘Hang All Gay People'


Donald Trump loves reminding his underlings who is in charge, and gets a kick out of joking about Mike Pence’s bigoted, anti-gay ideologies to his face.

Those are just two examples from an inside look at the pair’s relationship, as well as the vice president's rise to the White House, published in a bombshell New Yorker article Monday morning. The report, written by Jane Mayer, suggests the president openly mocks Pence’s attitude toward the LGBT community ever since the 2016 presidential campaign and during briefings with legal experts.

Trump and Pence sat in on a meeting to discuss a range of issues, from abortion to gay rights. When the conversation moved to the latter, the president pointed toward Pence and said: "Don't ask that guy—he wants to hang them all!"

The two were also told of a potential backlash to the overturning of Roe v. Wade, a landmark Supreme Court decision in 1973 ruling a Texas law banning abortion was unconstitutional. If the decision was reversed, as Pence has called for, states would move to legalize abortion. "You see?" Trump said to Pence. "You've wasted all this time and energy on it, and it’s not going to end abortion anyway."
Before the presidency, Trump would ask his campaign staffers along the campaign trail, "Did Mike make you pray?" as they left meetings with the former Governor of Indiana, who joined the Republican ticket July 15.

The president hasn't let his vice president forget who the commander in chief is, one source told The New Yorker. Trump likes to "let Pence know who’s boss," according to one source, despite ex-White House Chief Strategist Steve Bannon saying the president "thinks Pence is great."

The White House did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Pence has long been against the expansion of legislation protecting the LGBT community. According to his critics, as governor of Indiana he's supported the controversial—and debunked—conversion therapy treatment that promises to turn gay people straight. He also called for an amendment to the constitution in 2005 that would have permanently made marriage between a male and a woman exclusively, claiming gay marriage would lead to "societal collapse."

http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-says-mike-pence-wants-hang-all-gay-people-685759

You're a christian ? Issues such as gay rights or abortion matter to you ? You voted for Trump, thinking he would side with you on these issues ? You've been fooled, Trump doesn't care, doesn't give a fuck, thinks you're religiosity is something he can make fun of.

It's real good to see that chjristian people like Mike Huckabee or Ted Cruz supported Trump because thet thought he would fight for christian values haaving their religious principles being mocked by Trump

 

[zeeblofowl_1969]

Fuck the Christian control machine.

 

[earlyriser]

By the look of it there are some changes to the law planned

 

[gmase]

Can we agree on not fucking Bette Midler?
https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-kn...ls-on-women-to-refuse-sex-amid-texas-abortion

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1433626916003586053

 

[Mr. Daystar]

He's right, fighting abortion is useless. They might tighten shit to much, but it will never go away. There are way to many women in this country with power, that will fight it. All the republicans are doing is wasting time and money....just like the Dems should shut the fuck up about guns, and move on, they are never going to take them.

Again, left is to left, right is to right, and the people that pay for their petty little hissy fits are the hard working tax payers stuck in the middle of a festering shit bag, full of shitty little shit heads, that are all scared shitless.

 

[Johan]

just like the Dems should shut the fuck up about guns, and move on, they are never going to take them.

You had to make it about guns, as you always do...

 

[gmase]

He's right, fighting abortion is useless. They might tighten shit to much, but it will never go away. There are way to many women in this country with power, that will fight it. All the republicans are doing is wasting time and money....just like the Dems should shut the fuck up about guns, and move on, they are never going to take them.

Again, left is to left, right is to right, and the people that pay for their petty little hissy fits are the hard working tax payers stuck in the middle of a festering shit bag, full of shitty little shit heads, that are all scared shitless.

Good analogy. Instead of focusing on moving forward, let’s keep refighting old battles.

 

[Mr. Daystar]

You had to make it about guns, as you always do...

Because it's true, and because the only other real problem I have, is with immigration, and similar subjects, and when one tends to speak honestly, one tends to be called a racist. or a "phob" of some sort, because butt hurt is a constant aliment, and I hear enough shit from the "progressive, P.C." people. I AM NOT trying to change this into a gun thread, it was an example of the far lefts agenda. And since I could give a fuck less about how many gay couples get married, or if they have/adopt kinds, those are my only 2 problems with your ilk, and since they HAVE BEEN screaming about it lately, well there you go. And thank you for being such an narrow minded stereotypical whining pain in the ass.

Plus, you incredibly clueless, blind ass, those are ALWAYS the 2 issues...what the else is there to bring up? All their typical petty whimpering and back stabbing dumbfuckery ?

And as always, mind your own fucked up shithole froggy, france isn't exactly an utopian oasis.

 

[mikexmoran]

Win or lose the legal battle, if the state republicans are making anti-abortion a legal issue in Texas, it is a strategic win for the Democrats. Why the Republicans would stir up the Democratic base and shift attention is beyond me. I would imagine some RNC people are pulling their hair out.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/03/politics/texas-right-to-life-planned-parenthood-lawsuit/index.html

I don't see there being a climate that is demanding change.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/1576/abortion.aspx

Is it fringe driving the issue again or something else going on?

 

[xfire]

Donald Trump did more to curtail your gun rights than any Democrat since LBJ.

 

[gmase]

Stirring up the Democratic base also stirs up the Republican base. (It works the other direction too.) These issues deflect attention away from other real-life problems: poverty, unemployment, economic inequality, etc. And COVID.

The fringe feels emboldened and starts acting more powerful. Much like Trump’s ‘good people on both sides’ emboldened the far right to action.

That is why @El Diablo Blanco ‘s analogy was good. Gun deaths in 2020 were ~40k with half being suicides. Abortions were ~900k. Both are issues with little real life, everyday effect on citizens.

There are 8m unemployed, 30m living in poverty, and 500k homeless in the US. COVID deaths have been about 650k with many million a more hospitalized. The coronavirus has disrupted economies and societies.

In the overall scheme, we have bigger issues than guns or abortion.

 

[gmase]

Stirring up the Democratic base also stirs up the Republican base. (It works the other direction too.) These issues deflect attention away from other real-life problems: poverty, unemployment, economic inequality, etc. And COVID.

The fringe feels emboldened and starts acting more powerful. Much like Trump’s ‘good people on both sides’ emboldened the far right to action.

That is why @El Diablo Blanco ‘s analogy was good. Gun deaths in 2020 were ~40k with half being suicides. Abortions were ~900k. Both are issues with little real life, everyday effect on citizens.

There are 8m unemployed, 30m living in poverty, and 500k homeless in the US. COVID deaths have been about 650k with many million a more hospitalized. The coronavirus has disrupted economies and societies.

In the overall scheme, we have bigger issues than guns or abortion.

We may want to address climate change as well.

 

[Mr. Daystar]

Stirring up the Democratic base also stirs up the Republican base. (It works the other direction too.) These issues deflect attention away from other real-life problems: poverty, unemployment, economic inequality, etc. And COVID.

The fringe feels emboldened and starts acting more powerful. Much like Trump’s ‘good people on both sides’ emboldened the far right to action.

That is why @El Diablo Blanco ‘s analogy was good. Gun deaths in 2020 were ~40k with half being suicides. Abortions were ~900k. Both are issues with little real life, everyday effect on citizens.

There are 8m unemployed, 30m living in poverty, and 500k homeless in the US. COVID deaths have been about 650k with many million a more hospitalized. The coronavirus has disrupted economies and societies.

In the overall scheme, we have bigger issues than guns or abortion.

Thank you for this. It was my point exactly, although I had no statistics.

 

[gmase]

Thank you for this. It was my point exactly, although I had no statistics.

You are welcome. We still disagree on guns, but we have many more issues to prioritize. We can agree on that.

 

[Mr. Daystar]

I bumped this up, because there is a new, and relevant thread, regarding this topic, and this thread is related, and may have already yielded some contradictions, by somebody, from either side, I don't know, but I bumped it.

I found it looking for a war on drugs thread.

 

[xfire]

 

[D-rock]

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Hell, by the logic of the opinion of the leaked memo integration itself shouldn't be a constitutional right to them.