Time Travel... is it possible? This man thinks so.

[koolj]

They always talk about going back 70 or 80 years... lets just say you only went back 10 couldn't it be possible to run into yourself. Think how weird that would be. It's one thing to look in the mirror and see a reflection of yourself but to actually see yourself standing in front of you would be some crazy ****.

If it did become possible do you know how much **** people would want to go back and try to change....everything.


Some things are best left alone and i think Time Travel is one of them.


http://www.youtube.com/v/cjxo-pvSmdA&hl=en

http://www.youtube.com/v/V7vpw4AH8QQ&hl=en

http://www.youtube.com/v/V7AupwRJrgM&hl=en

http://www.youtube.com/v/NS1-SZ2L81k&hl=en

 

[Neutron66]

I believe the scientific consensus is that time travel into the future is theoretically possible but to the past is not.

 

[ChefChiTown]

Since time is a man-made concept, travelling through it would be impossible.

 

[tunsty]

This is no time to talk about time... we don't have the time.:*****:

 

[mrtrebus]

The idea of time travel is obviously dependant on what time is. & that is not as defined & universally accepted amongst the scientific community as some may think. There was a very interesting programme about it on UK telly last year presented by Dr Brian Cox that made my head spin!!

In one way time travel already exists, every time we look up into the night sky we are looking into the past due to the amount of time it takes for the light from the stars to reach us we are not seeing them as they appear at the time it is now on earth but as they appeared in the past.

If we accept that the past exists in the traditional sense & previous events have already occurred then by travelling back in time would it be possible to change anything(?)

1. You invent a time machine tomorrow & travel back to 22nd November 1963 to prevent the assassination of JFK . But 22nd November 1963 has already happened, so you have already existed in that time/place even before you were born, grew up, & invented a time machine. Your attempt to prevent JFK’s assassination has already failed before you even thought of doing it! Or maybe your attempts to change the past led to that very event happening?

2. Unless by changing the past you create a new timeline, & when you return to the present you return to a new present created by your previous meddling? But would the ‘original’ timeline exist still in a parallel dimension? Or does it get erased? Either way you would be the only person who knew of the ‘original’ timeline/events. Everyone would think you were mad if you, as in the above example, tried to tell everyone that JFK was assassinated. & what else would have changed from this one single event, for good or ill? It would probably be hard for the time traveller to adjust to this new present. In fact would you be a paradoxical element in a transformed present? Would you be able to return to the present at all?

I’m more inclined to believe option 1 is probably what would happen, if you believe in a logical universe with a defined timeline & a beginning, middle & end (which for the sake of this argument I do). It would almost be like a built in fail safe device for time. So it ultimately makes time travel pointless if the sole reason is to change events.

 

[mrtrebus]

The idea of time travel is obviously dependant on what time is. & that is not as defined & universally accepted amongst the scientific community as some may think. There was a very interesting programme about it on UK telly last year presented by Dr Brian Cox that made my head spin!!

In one way time travel already exists, every time we look up into the night sky we are looking into the past due to the amount of time it takes for the light from the stars to reach us we are not seeing them as they appear at the time it is now on earth but as they appeared in the past.

If we accept that the past exists in the traditional sense & previous events have already occurred then by travelling back in time would it be possible to change anything(?)

1. You invent a time machine tomorrow & travel back to 22nd November 1963 to prevent the assassination of JFK . But 22nd November 1963 has already happened, so you have already existed in that time/place even before you were born, grew up, & invented a time machine. Your attempt to prevent JFK’s assassination has already failed before you even thought of doing it! Or maybe your attempts to change the past led to that very event happening?

2. Unless by changing the past you create a new timeline, & when you return to the present you return to a new present created by your previous meddling? But would the ‘original’ timeline exist still in a parallel dimension? Or does it get erased? Either way you would be the only person who knew of the ‘original’ timeline/events. Everyone would think you were mad if you, as in the above example, tried to tell everyone that JFK was assassinated. & what else would have changed from this one single event, for good or ill? It would probably be hard for the time traveller to adjust to this new present. In fact would you be a paradoxical element in a transformed present? Would you be able to return to the present at all?

I’m more inclined to believe option 1 is probably what would happen, if you believe in a logical universe with a defined timeline & a beginning, middle & end (which for the sake of this argument I do). It would almost be like a built in fail safe device for time. So it ultimately makes time travel pointless if the sole reason is to change events.

Just watched a couple of those clips which posit the same ideas above, only with probably more clarity! But not sure about travelling back in time into a new universe of the past?!?

 

[marquis2]

The idea of parallel universes seems in my view to pose as many problems as it solves.I am inclined to believe that time travel is impossible because we haven't met anybody from the future who's done it and come back to see us.

 

[minidog]

The idea of parallel universes seems in my view to pose as many problems as it solves.I am inclined to believe that time travel is impossible because we haven't met anybody from the future who's done it and come back to see us.

BBC1 Dr.Who

 

[mrtrebus]

The idea of parallel universes seems in my view to pose as many problems as it solves.I am inclined to believe that time travel is impossible because we haven't met anybody from the future who's done it and come back to see us.

Then again the parallel universe theory may explain this. A traveller from the future cannot return to the same present he left from? He returns to a parallel present? Or maybe there are many time travellers who have but just get locked up in an asylum when they arrive! (Twelve Monkeys) :dunno:

 

[gunslingingbird]

Since time is a man-made concept, travelling through it would be impossible.

Yes and no. The concept of keeping track of time, designating names and numbers to determine what time it is or when something happened is man-made, but time itself is a naturally occurring phenomenon. It's time that sets the aging process in living things, time determines the seasons, and the distance between celestial bodies. Casio may be a human invention, but the thing that it measures is not.

 

[wingman00]

seen that guy before
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

 

[gunslingingbird]

I am inclined to believe that time travel is impossible because we haven't met anybody from the future who's done it and come back to see us.

Not that we know of, but how much of what the government knows do the people actually know?

 

[mrtrebus]

Yes and no. The concept of keeping track of time, designating names and numbers to determine what time it is or when something happened is man-made, but time itself is a naturally occurring phenomenon. It's time that sets the aging process in living things, time determines the seasons, and the distance between celestial bodies. Casio may be a human invention, but the thing that it measures is not.

Maybe, but these events are only observed by human perception. The whole of time could all be happening at once, but our brains can only experience it in a beginning, middle, end way. This would explain ghosts, little glimpses of the entirety of time seeping into our perception from the 'past' likewise UFO's, which may be craft from our 'future'. & also deja vu, blips in our perception of time?
Of course this could mean that there is no such thing as cause & effect or freewill. Which is slightly mindboggling! :eek:

 

[Friday on my mind]

Yes and no. The concept of keeping track of time, designating names and numbers to determine what time it is or when something happened is man-made, but time itself is a naturally occurring phenomenon. It's time that sets the aging process in living things, time determines the seasons, and the distance between celestial bodies. Casio may be a human invention, but the thing that it measures is not.

Yes time is real even if we are the only creatures able to comprehend the concept of time.

Not that we know of, but how much of what the government knows do the people actually know?

Something like 99.9 % lol.The only thing that can really ever be kept quiet is something only one person knows that he never speaks about.Once more than one person knows it is almost assuredly going to be known by most eventually.



As to this idea of time travel I think while it may make for some interesting books and movies and discussion that is about it I think.Made money for HG Wells is about the most I think it has ever done.

 

[jamrak]

may I quote myself?
cuz it reminds me of a discussion from an old thread...

http://board.freeones.com/showpost.php?p=1567117&postcount=66

 

[mrtrebus]

Horizon: Do You Know What Time It Is?
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=8AADFA9CCF8310BF

 

[Boobinator]

Judging by today's laws of physics, time travel is not possible nor will it ever be. Same goes for space travelling and life after death.

No one can ever know this until it's proven/disproven, but I think everything that is scientifically confirmed speaks against it. And personally I don't believe supernatural stuff, I've come to accept the limitations of nature

 

[thanksimout]

If I could save time in a bottle
The first thing that Id like to do
Is to save every day
Till eternity passes away
Just to spend them with you

Jim Croce

 

[mrtrebus]

If I could save time in a bottle
The first thing that Id like to do
Is to save every day
Till eternity passes away
Just to spend them with you

Jim Croce

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhgPxOMfnNI :thumbsup:

 

[Wainkerr99]

If'n he can makes hisself some ole time machine, well I begins ta wonda whether it is indeed possible to 'warp' time and space, at least insofar as making a bubble is concerned in which one can then travel faster than light?
Never mind the time travel. We are talking way into the future here. In any case, Jean Claude Van Damme may not be around to save us then. Neither will Chuck Norris.

One may glimpse the past is the future is the past, but to actually travel there?

I would go with the trying to move through space unfettered by the constraints of time as much as possible.