This is how you create America-hating jihadists

Obama Killed a 16-Year-Old American in Yemen. Trump Just Killed His 8-Year-Old Sister


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In 2010 President Obama directed the CIA to assassinate an American citizen in Yemen, Anwar al-Awlaki, despite the fact that he had never been charged with (let alone convicted of) any crime, and the agency successfully carried out that order a year later with a September 2011 drone strike. While that assassination created widespread debate — the once-again-beloved ACLU sued Obama to restrain him from the assassination on the ground of due process and then, when that suit was dismissed, sued Obama again after the killing was carried out — another drone killing carried out shortly thereafter was perhaps even more significant yet generated relatively little attention.

Two weeks after the killing of Awlaki, a separate CIA drone strike in Yemen killed his 16-year-old American-born son, Abdulrahman, along with the boy’s 17-year-old cousin and several other innocent Yemenis. The U.S. eventually claimed that the boy was not their target but merely “collateral damage.” Abdulrahman’s grief-stricken grandfather, Nasser al-Awlaki, urged the Washington Post “to visit a Facebook memorial page for Abdulrahman,” which explained: “Look at his pictures, his friends, and his hobbies. His Facebook page shows a typical kid.”

Few events pulled the mask off Obama officials like this one. It highlighted how the Obama administration was ravaging Yemen, one of the world’s poorest countries: just weeks after he won the Nobel Prize, Obama used cluster bombs that killed 35 Yemeni women and children. Even Obama-supporting liberal comedians mocked the arguments of the Obama DOJ for why it had the right to execute Americans with no charges: “Due Process Just Means There’s A Process That You Do,” snarked Stephen Colbert. And a firestorm erupted when former Obama press secretary Robert Gibbs offered a sociopathic justification for killing the Colorado-born teenager, apparently blaming him for his own killing by saying he should have “had a more responsible father.”

The U.S. assault on Yemeni civilians not only continued but radically escalated over the next five years through the end of the Obama presidency, as the U.S. and the U.K. armed, supported, and provide crucial assistance to their close ally Saudi Arabia as it devastated Yemen through a criminally reckless bombing campaign. Yemen now faces mass starvation, seemingly exacerbated, deliberately, by the U.S.-U.K.-supported air attacks. Because of the West’s direct responsibility for these atrocities, they have received vanishingly little attention in the responsible countries.

In a hideous symbol of the bipartisan continuity of U.S. barbarism, Nasser al-Awlaki just lost another one of his young grandchildren to U.S. violence. On Sunday, the Navy’s SEAL Team 6, using armed Reaper drones for cover, carried out a commando raid on what it said was a compound harboring officials of al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula. A statement issued by President Trump lamented the death of an American service member and several others who were wounded, but made no mention of any civilian deaths. U.S. military officials initially denied any civilian deaths, and (therefore) the CNN report on the raid said nothing about any civilians being killed.
But reports from Yemen quickly surfaced that 30 people were killed, including 10 women and children. Among the dead: the 8-year-old granddaughter of Nasser al-Awlaki, Nawar, who was also the daughter of Anwar Awlaki.

As noted by my colleague Jeremy Scahill — who extensively interviewed the grandparents in Yemen for his book and film on Obama’s “Dirty Wars” — the girl “was shot in the neck and killed,” bleeding to death over the course of two hours. “Why kill children?” the grandfather asked. “This is the new (U.S.) administration — it’s very sad, a big crime.”

The New York Times yesterday reported that military officials had been planning and debating the raid for months under the Obama administration, but Obama officials decided to leave the choice to Trump. The new president personally authorized the attack last week. They claim that the “main target” of the raid “was computer materials inside the house that could contain clues about future terrorist plots.” The paper cited a Yemeni official saying that “at least eight women and seven children, ages 3 to 13, had been killed in the raid,” and that the attack also “severely damaged a school, a health facility and a mosque.”

As my colleague Matthew Cole reported in great detail just weeks ago, Navy SEAL Team 6, for all its public glory, has a long history of “‘revenge ops,’ unjustified killings, mutilations, and other atrocities.” And Trump notoriously vowed during the campaign to target not only terrorists but also their families. All of that demands aggressive, independent inquiries into this operation.

Perhaps most tragic of all is that — just as was true in Iraq — al Qaeda had very little presence in Yemen before the Obama administration began bombing and droning it and killing civilians, thus driving people into the arms of the militant group. As the late, young Yemeni writer Ibrahim Mothana told Congress in 2013:

Drone strikes are causing more and more Yemenis to hate America and join radical militants. … Unfortunately, liberal voices in the United States are largely ignoring, if not condoning, civilian deaths and extrajudicial killings in Yemen.
During George W. Bush’s presidency, the rage would have been tremendous. But today there is little outcry, even though what is happening is in many ways an escalation of Mr. Bush’s policies. …
Defenders of human rights must speak out. America’s counterterrorism policy here is not only making Yemen less safe by strengthening support for AQAP [al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula] but it could also ultimately endanger the United States and the entire world.


This is why it is crucial that — as urgent and valid protests erupt against Trump’s abuses — we not permit recent history to be whitewashed, or long-standing U.S. savagery to be deceitfully depicted as new Trumpian aberrations, or the war on terror framework engendering these new assaults to be forgotten. Some current abuses are unique to Trump, but — as I detailed on Saturday — some are the decades-old byproduct of a mindset and system of war and executive powers that all need uprooting. Obscuring these facts, or allowing those responsible to posture as opponents of all this, is not just misleading but counterproductive: Much of this resides on an odious continuum and did not just appear out of nowhere.

It’s genuinely inspiring to see pervasive rage over the banning of visa holders and refugees from countries like Yemen. But it’s also infuriating that the U.S. continues to massacre Yemeni civilians, both directly and through its tyrannical Saudi partners. That does not become less infuriating — Yemeni civilians are not less dead — because these policies and the war theories in which they are rooted began before the inauguration of Donald Trump. It’s not just Trump but this mentality and framework that need vehement opposition.
https://theintercept.com/2017/01/30...emen-trump-just-killed-his-8-year-old-sister/

Sad to see that the things that Trump does just like Obama are the worst thing Obama did...

Think about it : You're in Yemen, you've seen Saudi aircrafts bombing your city, Saudi soldiers slaughtering your neighbors and you know they are supported an armed by the US, you've seen US military kill civilians, includsing that 8 years old little girl. Wouldn't you want to join an organisation who would offer you a chance to get revenge of the US ?
Because of 9/11 and other terrorists attacks, many americans would like their military to go and kill sqome muslims, just for revenge. DFon't you think those who have seen americans killing their neighbors, their friends, their families would seize any opportunity to kil some americans, just for revenge ?
 
Collateral damage, it happens. Only thing I can say is.....They shouldn't have been there.
 
How many children were literally flattened (cartoon-style) by the lorry attacks in Nice and Berlin?

Reports are that women in the group were also firing on U.S. forces on this Yemeni raid. To suggest that our forces target women and children to be killed as procedure or retribution is beyond vile. In other words, Fuck you.
 
How many children were literally flattened (cartoon-style) by the lorry attacks in Nice and Berlin?

Reports are that women in the group were also firing on U.S. forces on this Yemeni raid. To suggest that our forces target women and children to be killed as procedure or retribution is beyond vile. In other words, Fuck you.
The fact that some radical muslim flattened children with a truck does not makes it less horrible if the french military kills innocent kids somewhere in the middle east.
We can't claim we are the civilised ones and they are tha barbarians if we do horrific stuff like this just because they did it first. If we claim we are better than them, we have to act as so.

I don't suggest navy seals purposely kill women and children.
But wether they doi it on purpose or it's just "collateral damage" is not very important 'cause in the end, the consequences are the same : innocents are killed and those who are still alive might join Daech or Al-Qaeda 'cause they promise them to get some retribution.
How can we hope to win the war on terrorism if we keep adding fuel to the fire ?
 
What creates American hating jihadists more than anything are successes that prove to them that allah is pleased. Whether it was the towers coming down on 9/11 or ISIS routing Syrian and Iraqi forces and winning over wide swaths of territory and establishing a caliphate.

And raping swedish women on facebook livestreams. They get off on that. Anything that puts the unbeliever in their place. Inshallah.
 
What creates American hating jihadists more than anything are successes that prove to them that allah is pleased. Whether it was the towers coming down on 9/11 or ISIS routing Syrian and Iraqi forces and winning over wide swaths of territory and establishing a caliphate.


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Actually, Daech expansion has stopped and the coalition is now winning ground on them. And the terrorist sprea in Europe coincidates with that. Daech used to tell their western sympathiser to come in Syria and fight. Now they tell them to stay in their countries and strike there, to undermine the opinion, to push for muslim vs non muslims tensions in western countries.

Livestream raping is not creating many terrorists. What create terrorist is internet propaganda videos focusing on civilian muslims deaths caused by western countries and Israel.
 

bobjustbob

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So what you are suggesting is that these strikes were to target random people. No operative or other bad guys were the targets. And if they were bad guys hiding in civilian situations then that is their safe harbor. Got it.
 
How can we hope to win the war on terrorism if we keep adding fuel to the fire ?

We can't.
You'd think that would be painfully obvious by now, but...

Having said that, I'd choose the drone program (with all of its warts) over invading and occupying sovereign nations any day of the year.
Collateral damage IS inevitable. For now, minimizing it is probably the best we can hope to do. Here's hoping the current president is as adept (or moreso) at minimizing it as the last one was. Though from the way he talks, that seems like a faint hope.
 
So, we (the west) are adding fuel to the fire? Even if that's the case, it's throwing a lit match onto an already raging inferno that's been blazing for centuries since it's inception.

Our American forefathers have had to deal with this same shit hundreds of years ago, has has the rest of the world. And our children and our children's children will have to as well. Maybe that'll change when entire cities and millions of people are turned to ash in a single moment.

"to wipe radical islam from the face of the earth." thank you for the sentiment, Mr. President, and godspeed.
 

meesterperfect

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I'm starting to considering leaving again.
I get enough propaganda from the fake news without having to see it here everywhere.

Why post the Title "How to create America Hating Jihadists"?

Why not just post a title that sums up what happened?

Nazi Attack Nightclub, Muslim Ban at Airport, ect.
You people are posting about "JIHADISTS" because thats the direction the news article pulled your collar towards.
WTF. Civilians, children, are being slaughtered in Yemem everyday. They have been for a long time now.
That is the fucking issue.

Anyway I posted about this event here recently.

Johan. What you wrote is 100% correct.
Very True.


The US has no business dropping bombs on any country. Whether doing it directly eg. Iraq. Using Proxy mercenary armies like isis eg. Syria.
Or using countries the Saudi Arabia as in Yemen.

But I am disappointed that this is suddenly being put in the news only to degrade Trumps Immigration freeze.
Yemen has been the victim of a terror campaign by the US and Saudi for a while now.
Not just blowing up people and property, destroying water and food supplies and creating a famine.
People are starving from this also. Starving to a point of sickness and death.
Not only that non stop bombing causes terror. Can you imagine what the children go through each night?
Probably screaming all night, terrified. People, even yopung people actually have heart attacks and miscarraiges from it.

My point. Every human should care about this because its is crimes against humanity.
Americans should care more because its their country that is behind it all.
We are not sopposed to be about that. But we are.
Not just suddenly care because it can be used against Trump.

And what just happened was a little different.
The US was supposedly targeting some specific bad guys.
And I think its pretty obvious the bad guys were tipped off. Probably by John Mccain or one of his people.
What the Saudis are doing is just an open reign of terror and murder against intentionally against civilians.
Either way The Saudis and The US should not drop one more bomb in Yemen.
Want to stop "Terrorism" Trump? Get every US soldier out of every country that has not specifically invited those soldiers to be there

Hey Johan? If you read any of this please give me some kind of sign.
Anything.
 
"to wipe radical islam from the face of the earth." thank you for the sentiment, Mr. President, and godspeed.

Sounds good to me too. Sounded good when our previous two president spoke about it too. But it isn't going to happen fast. And the more impatient we get about it the more likely we are to do something to help grow it, imo.
 

meesterperfect

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So, we (the west) are adding fuel to the fire? Even if that's the case, it's throwing a lit match onto an already raging inferno that's been blazing for centuries since it's inception.

Our American forefathers have had to deal with this same shit hundreds of years ago, has has the rest of the world. And our children and our children's children will have to as well. Maybe that'll change when entire cities and millions of people are turned to ash in a single moment.

"to wipe radical islam from the face of the earth." thank you for the sentiment, Mr. President, and godspeed.

What does that mean?
Thousands of years.
I'm sorry maybe youre thinking about Europe and America?
I know theyve been at war for thousands of years.
Am I misunderstanding or are you for carpet bombing country after country in the name of the WAR ON TERROR?

Sorry but you've been sold something that is not real.
Arabs, the Middle East is not nor ever was a threat to the USA.

And bodes your talking like a real war hawk.
 
And bodes your talking like a real war hawk.

We live in completely separate realities.
I know American soldiers who've been wounded and KIA in Iraq and Afghanistan. They weren't shot by American mercenaries. As a matter of fact, the living would question the sanity (or at least the common sense) of anybody who'd even suggest such a thing.

No I'm not a war hawk. But in my reality we are engaged in a war with radical islam. One that's been a long time building, and that's going to take a long time and a lot of wisdom unwinding. In the meantime, people ARE going to die, including civilians. That's inevitable. How we "win" that war without unwittingly helping to grow the enemy is the key question to me, and the answer definitely includes limiting collateral damage as much as possible.

Either me or my brother posted Bin Laden's "Letter To America" here for you once before. I'm quite certain you didn't bother to read it. Easy to find on google under that title. Give it a try some day. It's really quite enlightening.
 
Our American forefathers have had to deal with this same shit hundreds of years ago, has has the rest of the world. And our children and our children's children will have to as well. Maybe that'll change when entire cities and millions of people are turned to ash in a single moment.

If it ever happens, then every single muslim left alive would become a jihadist

"to wipe radical islam from the face of the earth." thank you for the sentiment, Mr. President, and godspeed.
Radical Islam is a weed. You can cut it as much as you want, it will always regrow. The only way to get rid of it is to drain dry the ground on which it grows.
 
Being allied with Saudi Arabia to fight radical Islam is like being allied with Soviet Union to fight comunism

I can't argue with that. The Saudi government exports and funds these madrasas and outreach programs in prisons including in the U.S. that are spawning grounds and indoctrination centers for terrorism. They take advantage of our freedom of religion while forbidding it themselves.

Saudi Arabia is the epicentre both figuratively and literally. That kaaba stone.
 

Supafly

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How many children were literally flattened (cartoon-style) by the lorry attacks in Nice and Berlin?

Reports are that women in the group were also firing on U.S. forces on this Yemeni raid. To suggest that our forces target women and children to be killed as procedure or retribution is beyond vile. In other words, Fuck you.

Nice touich. So you set your administration officially on one shelf with ISIS.

Which means you can't be mad if they keep killing your citizens, really, if you want to follow your own logic.

God, the last year has really wrecked your mind.
 
Nice touich. So you set your administration officially on one shelf with ISIS.

Which means you can't be mad if they keep killing your citizens, really, if you want to follow your own logic.

God, the last year has really wrecked your mind.

I know there's sometimes something lost in translation, but you missed the point. Unlike our enemies, who purposely target women and children to be killed for effect, we don't do that, regardless of what candidate Trump said during the campaign. Civilian casualties are going to happen unfortunately. And this notion that what we do creates more jihadists, I'm sure it does in some cases, but we're repeatedly told that muslims are the number one victims of jihadists in terms of numbers killed. So since when do civilian casualties matter to someone who is of the mindset to join one of these groups?

In other words, Muhammad has a relative killed by a U.S. airstrike, so he joins ISIS or Al-Qaeda and goes on to slaughter scores more muslim civilians.
 
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