the true dirty terrorism history

United States

Initially, the history of U.S. education is at least controversial, since the Americans invaded and took half of Mexico. Gone are infiltrating in Texas and, after two years of war, taken to the capital, Mexico had to deliver Texas, California and New Mexico in 1848.

In 1898, the United States overthrew a queen of Hawaii and just attached it.

In Cuba, hiding in the Monroe Doctrine, the United States intervened in Cuba's war of independence against Spain (reinforced by blowing a pretext his old ship in Havana harbor and accusing Spain as a culprit). That war resulted in the annexation of Puerto Rico and the Philippines. In 1961, anti-Castro Cuban exiles, backed by the government of John Kennedy, invaded the Bay of Pigs in Cuba in a failed attempt to overthrow Fidel Castro. In December 1986, in Panama, after failed attempts to depose Manuel Noriega, President George Bush sent 24,000 troops to the country, overthrew the government and installed Guillermo Endara, elected in elections annulled by Noriega.

The U.S. intervened militarily several times in Latin American countries in order to defend their economic and political interests. This interventionist policy was called Big Stick (big stick) and initiated by President Theodore Roosevelt. In the 1980s, amid a wave of interventions in Central America, in a power struggle between left and right in which the U.S. insisted on getting involved militarily, President Ronald Reagan sent troops to the Caribbean island of Grenada with the "goal" of preventing the spread of communism in Latin America.

The interventionist policy of Ronald Reagan led to 30,000 victims in Nicaragua. Everything was organized, armed and financed with the complicity of the mafia of **** trafficking to the campaign of "cons" Nicaraguans. In Guatemala, more than 200 000 people, mostly Indians, were exterminated, never without some means of communication in the world had reported. The Guatemalans were not ****** by any Muslim fanatics but by terrorist soldiers who received the financial support and inspiration of successive U.S. governments.

Funded and supported Operation Condor was a common strategy of repression to authoritarian governments in South America in the 1970s, to face the extreme-left movements, especially in Brazil and Chile in the [[Argentina].

not to mention the use of weapons of mass destruction against civilian targets, nuclear bombs, prison guantanamo, iraq invasion ............( lack space to talk about everything).

Israel

It was after the order of migration of the Zionist movement that created the first groups were fundamentalist terrorists in Palestine: The Bar-Giora (1907, after Hashomer - 1909 and finally Haganah - 1920) and the Irgun (Etzel or - 1931), both consist of terrorist JEWS recent immigrants. Remember that one of the leaders of the Haganah was David Ben-Gurion. After the "independence" of the Irgun Israel would become the Herut, right-wing party that later became the Likud and Kadima, while the Haganah would result in the Israel Defense ****** and the Labour Party (left). In addition to Ben-Gurion, were also "militants" of the Irgun prominent names in Israeli politics, like Yitzhak Rabin, Ariel Sharon, Rehavam Zeevi, Dov Hoz, Moshe Dayan, Yigal Allon and Ruth Westheimer.

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Ace Bandage

The one and only.
I'm sorry, but it's really hard to concentrate over the sound of how awesome America is. I appreciate the effort though in convincing me that my country engages in state sponsored terrorism. I'll have to respectfully reject that notion, however.

USA! USA! USA!
 

Ace Boobtoucher

Founder and Captain of the Douchepatrol
I lived in Brazil for a year. It's history is fraught with political corruption, terrorism and tyranny. Same could be said for any country, really. Especially yours.
 
Didn't you forget 9/11. A democratic elected president was overthrown by the military supported by US intelligence. Thousands were ******, ******** and/or disappeared. For those of you who don't know history I'm talking about Chile 1973.
 
Andronicus Ry said:
I'm sorry, but it's really hard to concentrate over the sound of how awesome America is.
Instead of acting like a ***** and sticking your head in the sand maybe you should try to be more critical of your government.

I appreciate the effort though in convincing me that my country engages in state sponsored terrorism. I'll have to respectfully reject that notion, however.
You can reject the notion as much as you want but it's true. Another fine example is how the US supported Iraq during the Iran-Iraq war and basically helped Saddam Hussein solidify his position as leader of Iraq. The US government was well aware the people of Iraq suffered @ the hands of Hussein but ofcourse oil was more important.

Or how about the ties between the Bin Ladens and the Bush dynasty wich go back decades. The Bushes were more than happy to accept money from them as long as it served their interests.

Ther are many more examples wich show the US government has engaged in state sponsored terrorism.
 

vodkazvictim

Why save the world, when you can rule it?
More from this guy. I'm loving his clear lack of bias, especially in combination with the time he appears.

So (without reading the thread) lets sum it up:
1: america is awful and has done some awful things. Terrorism is included in that. One example is the "shock & awe" campaign.
2: It's the same for nearly all other countries (Switzerland is an example of a good country, but even there, go far enough back and issues appear).
3: Believe it or not, some "Islamic" organisations of Middle Eastern origin have engaged in terrorism.
 
there are TONS of examples to illustrate this point, but just look up "United States vs Nicaragua" and then you can shut the fuck up about how things are different because we're Amurica [fuck yeah]

Of course, none of this matters because we follow the "golden rule" ....He who has the gold, makes the rules
 

Supafly

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More from this guy. I'm loving his clear lack of bias, especially in combination with the time he appears.

So (without reading the thread) lets sum it up:
1: america is awful and has done some awful things. Terrorism is included in that. One example is the "shock & awe" campaign.
2: It's the same for nearly all other countries (Switzerland is an example of a good country, but even there, go far enough back and issues appear).
3: Believe it or not, some "Islamic" organisations of Middle Eastern origin have engaged in terrorism.

I must say, any country has its dirty sides. Switzerland is not so much of a good example for playing it clean - If you withdrew every **** lord, mafiosi, ****-acestor, dictator and basically, tax-evader account from the banks there, the country would be a third-world country over night.

And we germans are not so lilly-white, selling weapons to anybody, Gaddafi, turkey AND greece, any african country where people slaughter each other etc.

You can't name a country that plays fair all over. Maybe one that is not as nasty one way or another.

I think people **** the USA so much because they are still the world leaders, even as they are crumbling on the edges.

As to Israel: If you have a neighbour country which is governed by an organisation thats base motto says, there is no way around the country of israel has got to completely go, and who keep shooting missiles and mortar shells on your land, what are you doing about this?

I for one say: You fight back. And if in the process you take out the terrorost leaders of the organisation who is working on deleting your country, well, thats what you have to do, when they go overboard.
 

vodkazvictim

Why save the world, when you can rule it?
I must say, any country has its dirty sides. Switzerland is not so much of a good example for playing it clean - If you withdrew every **** lord, mafiosi, ****-acestor, dictator and basically, tax-evader account from the banks there, the country would be a third-world country over night.

And we germans are not so lilly-white, selling weapons to anybody, Gaddafi, turkey AND greece, any african country where people slaughter each other etc.

You can't name a country that plays fair all over. Maybe one that is not as nasty one way or another.

I think people **** the USA so much because they are still the world leaders, even as they are crumbling on the edges.

As to Israel: If you have a neighbour country which is governed by an organisation thats base motto says, there is no way around the country of israel has got to completely go, and who keep shooting missiles and mortar shells on your land, what are you doing about this?

I for one say: You fight back. And if in the process you take out the terrorost leaders of the organisation who is working on deleting your country, well, thats what you have to do, when they go overboard.
You have a good point about the bank accounts. I forgot that. Other than that, the last scandals I remember from Switzerland was **** gold (they never gave it back to the Nazis, so it's not all bad) and that whole Nestle thing.

You Germans could be worse...
BTW, how are your Typhoons working? Because our British ones just seem to dissapoint, I'm afraid to say.
It would be ironic, given that we ****** the name "Typhoon" on you, if it were to operate well in German service and poorly in British service... :rofl:

I'm only too aware of the problems with america. Their saving grace is that they're preferable to china.
As for Israel... well, I think the approach of the Israeli hawks will bring trouble to Israel for decades to come.
 
I lived in Brazil for a year. It's history is fraught with political corruption, terrorism and tyranny. Same could be said for any country, really. Especially yours.

Of course, you know who supported, financed and supported all of these corrupt ********* and terrorists, in Brazil and throughout Latin America: U.S. and its allies.

The Brazil is not a banana republic, we are the fourth largest democracy in the world.
 

Ace Bandage

The one and only.
Awesome. I love being criticized by a dude who plays a female on the Internet.
 

Ace Boobtoucher

Founder and Captain of the Douchepatrol
Of course, you know who supported, financed and supported all of these corrupt ********* and terrorists, in Brazil and throughout Latin America: U.S. and its allies.

The Brazil is not a banana republic, we are the fourth largest democracy in the world.



Yeah, your government has been stabilized for all of twenty years.
After a military coup in 1964, Brazil had a series of military governments. Gen. João Baptista de Oliveira Figueiredo became president in 1979 and pledged a return to democracy in 1985. The election of Tancredo Neves on Jan. 15, 1985, the first civilian president since 1964, brought a nationwide wave of optimism, but when Neves died several months later, Vice President José Sarney became president. Collor de Mello won the election of late 1989, pledging to lower hyperinflation with free-market economics. When Collor faced impeachment by Congress because of a corruption scandal in Dec. 1992 and resigned, Vice President Itamar Franco assumed the presidency.

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0107357.html


I've seen communist party flags all over the place when I was down there and I know uncle Fidel had insurgency groups running around, stirring **** up in the sixties and seventies. Plus, you had several hundred if not thousands of Ex-Nazis living there with the tacit approval of the government. I could go on about the state condoned mistreatment of the native tribes or the use of slave labor until the end of the 19th century and how Brazil was the largest importer of African slaves on Earth. Or that there are an estimated 25000 people currently living as slaves in your country.

But I digress. Your original post was about how bad America is in your eyes. As bad as it may be, it's still the best place on Earth. And I won't apologize for things that happened a hundred years before I was born.

Enjoy living in your banana republic.
 
Yeah, your government has been stabilized for all of twenty years.


http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0107357.html


I've seen communist party flags all over the place when I was down there and I know uncle Fidel had insurgency groups running around, stirring **** up in the sixties and seventies. Plus, you had several hundred if not thousands of Ex-Nazis living there with the tacit approval of the government. I could go on about the state condoned mistreatment of the native tribes or the use of slave labor until the end of the 19th century and how Brazil was the largest importer of African slaves on Earth. Or that there are an estimated 25000 people currently living as slaves in your country.

But I digress. Your original post was about how bad America is in your eyes. As bad as it may be, it's still the best place on Earth. And I won't apologize for things that happened a hundred years before I was born.

Enjoy living in your banana republic.


nor should you. putting todays standards on past events is a stupid and dangerous thing. obviously all countries have done bad things in their histories, but at the time they were happening they were acceptable.
 

Ace Bandage

The one and only.
obviously all countries have done bad things in their histories, but at the time they were happening they were acceptable.

Really?

And here I thought that ********* 6 million Jews in **** Germany was not acceptable during the 1940s. Silly me.
 
Instead of acting like a ***** and sticking your head in the sand maybe you should try to be more critical of your government.

Some of our leaders have failed to live up to the values our country stands for in pursuit of some policies.

But there is nothing wrong with our government. The model and theory is the best in the world that I've seen.:2 cents:
 
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