The secret guns sting that backfired

Will E Worm

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Exposed: The secret guns sting that backfired on the US

The lethal fallout from a botched operation by the US Department of Justice which allowed almost 2,000 illegally purchased firearms to be transported from the streets of Arizona to drug gangs in Mexico has been laid bare in a scathing Congressional report, which concludes that it resulted in countless deaths.

A mixture of arrogance, over-confidence, and staggering ineptitude by the Department's Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives [ATF] was outlined in a 51-page investigation by two Republican members of a House panel charged with getting to the bottom of what went wrong during a two-year operation called "Fast and Furious".

It tells how, between 2009 and this year, the ATF instructed agents to turn a blind eye to hundreds of AK-47 assault rifles, sniper rifles, and revolvers purchased from gunshops in Phoenix and en route to Mexico. They hoped to eventually recover them from crime scenes and build a complex conspiracy case that might take down the leaders of a major drug cartel.

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:facepalm: The ATF needs to go. We do not need them.

Another conspiracy? A complex conspiracy. Only when it is against their despotic agendas.

Look at the jackbooted thugs.
 

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Rey C.

Racing is life... anything else is just waiting.
If I saw a squad of ATF agents battling a group of Zetas, I'm really not sure who I'd pull for. Might as well pull for the Zetas, since I'm sure they'd kick the ATF boys in the ass. Plus, the Zetas admit that they're the scum of the earth. The ATF agents continue to act like they're the "good guys". :rolleyes:
 
If Mexico did to the US what we did to Mexico, it'd be considered an act of war by many.

The Obama Admin spent months trying to condemn the 2nd Amendment, despite the fact that the American arms that cartels possess were acquired by military contracts and Federal policy. Holder needs to step down and Congress needs to investigate him. We condemn Iran and Syria for giving arms to terrorist groups, yet we have done the exact same thing.
 
I think this had to do with an obession to get "the big fish", the difference is that a load of drugs that's allowed to enter the U.S., if it harms anyone, it'll be the junkies who end up overdosing, no big loss, but allowing people to obtain firearms with the knowledge that these people are buying them, not for themselves, but for a cartel will get innocent people killed.

But what angers me is that now thanks to that I can't go to Mexico to get laid :mad:
 

Kingfisher

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the ATF is one of the worst government agencies in existence. incompetent and unnecessary

Exactly. Fucking morons. They'll probably redirect the blame towards legal gun owners and that will someone, in the end, screw us over.
 

Rey C.

Racing is life... anything else is just waiting.
If Mexico did to the US what we did to Mexico, it'd be considered an act of war by many.

I think that when the Mexican government was caught supplying maps to illegals (2004, I believe), showing them the best routes to sneak into the U.S., Bush should have locked down the border right then & there. But we were too busy hunting down the Iraqis who crashed those planes into the World Trade Center. :facepalm:

I'm sorry that Red Spyder wouldn't be able to buy cheap Mexican pussy any longer, but I've been in favor of placing TIGHT controls on the Mexican border for years. I'm also in favor of changing the Constitution, so that an illegal parent wouldn't be able to squirt out a "legal" baby here and hang around forever. Unlike some who favor this change, I have nothing against Mexicans as a nationality. We have a problem with illegal Russians, Middle Easterners and a good number of others who take advantage of our system. At some point, this silliness MUST come to an end, before the situation truly boils over.
 
Heriberto “El Lazca” Lazcano Lazcano, the leader of the Zetas, died Friday in Matamoros after a gruesome firefight with the Gulf Cartel
 

Supafly

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I find the last sentence to ce the juiciest bit:

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But the White House has said it had no direct knowledge of the operation.

You either have knowledge or you DON'T have knowledge.

That line is pretty fishy. So when it is uncovered they knew, the will try the card, oh, no one told us directly.

But really, calling the Operation 'Fast and Furious' is not so smart. These guys seem to be pretty reckless.
 
I live in Mexico, in Queretaro, witch is the second safest state in Mex. with a very low crime rate. But the neighboring states, Guanajuato, Michoacan, Hidalgo and Estado de Mexico are all crime ridden. You have kidnappings, extortions, cartel murders and so on. And all of it fueled mostly by the ravenous hunger for drugs by addicts in the US. Over 40,000 killed and around 15,000 have gone missing, either by kidnapping, buried in shallow graves or as el Pozolero `Stew Maker' confessed to after his arrest to dissolving over 300 people in acid. Those involved in allowing these weapons to cross unhampered should, better put, need to see jail time. But I'm sure just as in the Iran Contra situation no body will be held accountable.
 
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