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In fact, I'm still dumbfounded why the largest *** on a US Navy ship is only ~5" now, with only 6-6.5" -- at most -- planned anytime in the near future.
Just doesn't make sense, and you'd figured we would have learned after reactivating the BBs several times!
Remember, the missile is coming in "head on" which is least ideal.
When it comes to NTW (Navy Theater Wide), it's the same as before -- the ideal intercept is never "head-on."
That's why you have ****** ships around the big-caps -- DDGs and CGs to protect the CVNs and LHDs -- as well as DDGs and CGs for each other.
In TMD, assets and sensor and interceptors are all separate, and the interceptor often hits at a great deflection angle, avoiding head-on.
At the same time, we still aim for the "front" (even if from the side) for many reasons.
The biggie is that's the "thing" (the very hardened/re-entry "thing") we want, but also because if we're a "tad late," we still hit it, or a "tad early," it hits us.
Basic car collision physics, only at 200x speed.
And with 200x the damage -- oh man, I gotta find what has been declassified, because there might now be some good **** for public consumption!
Patriot v. PAC-3 = no contest in the result
People always find it humorous that the Navy and Marines have the "older stuff," but they put "all the goodies" in them and "make due" far better than the Army or Air ***** does with the newer toys.
But the cool thing is that I got out and got to work on defense-space systems anyway, and got to use quite a bit of everything from 6DOF to general relativity, well outside my major.
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Airburst, soft targets, etc... -- oh, totally understand.I know we're talking "fast moving hard objects" but let me tell you - as a scout responsible for calling in many an arty strike - we grunts loved the proximity/VT fuses.
In fact, I'm still dumbfounded why the largest *** on a US Navy ship is only ~5" now, with only 6-6.5" -- at most -- planned anytime in the near future.
Just doesn't make sense, and you'd figured we would have learned after reactivating the BBs several times!
CIWS is the "last ditch effort" and rather ineffective since it just "paints a small area" with as much matter as it can.Would the Phalanx CIWS on Navy ships count as the same (I know that they are used as CIWS. Maybe a really scaled down version of Theater Defense) ?
Because that is pretty much the only projectile "anti-missile" system that I know anything about :tongue:
Remember, the missile is coming in "head on" which is least ideal.
When it comes to NTW (Navy Theater Wide), it's the same as before -- the ideal intercept is never "head-on."
That's why you have ****** ships around the big-caps -- DDGs and CGs to protect the CVNs and LHDs -- as well as DDGs and CGs for each other.
In TMD, assets and sensor and interceptors are all separate, and the interceptor often hits at a great deflection angle, avoiding head-on.
At the same time, we still aim for the "front" (even if from the side) for many reasons.
The biggie is that's the "thing" (the very hardened/re-entry "thing") we want, but also because if we're a "tad late," we still hit it, or a "tad early," it hits us.
Basic car collision physics, only at 200x speed.
And with 200x the damage -- oh man, I gotta find what has been declassified, because there might now be some good **** for public consumption!
Patriot v. PAC-3 = no contest in the result
It's funny, but the phased array stuff we (I worked at Boeing for a little while in more recent years -- my only time outside the finance/consulting industry since the '90s/very early W.) put standard in the Navy's toys is just way too cool for the stock Air ***** ****.I know an airforce **** a long time ago who thought that the Sovs were idiots for using the MiG-25 as an 'interceptor'.
In his opinion, the aircraft was just not "built" for that role (much less air superiority... but that's a different thread I suppose).
People always find it humorous that the Navy and Marines have the "older stuff," but they put "all the goodies" in them and "make due" far better than the Army or Air ***** does with the newer toys.
If I had to go back, I would have gotten a ME -- but I was already into my final 2 semesters (including my senior design class) before I realized I liked ME more than EE.Don't beat yourself up over it. I could (and still can) spot favorable terrain, plot probable approach routes, and call down fire missions in the blink of a second - but sometimes have trouble navigating city streets on cross country trips :dunno:
But the cool thing is that I got out and got to work on defense-space systems anyway, and got to use quite a bit of everything from 6DOF to general relativity, well outside my major.