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Workers’ wages fall after passage of GOP tax cuts


Trump's corporate tax cut hasn't benefited workers like he said it would.


The federal government just admitted that workers are earning lower wages since the passage of the GOP tax cuts.

When President Donald Trump was pushing Congress to pass his tax plan last year, which focused on lowering corporate rates and the income taxes of high earners, he pulled out a handy statistic: according to the president’s Council of Economic Advisers, the average family would make $4,000 more under the new plan.
Trump repeatedly used this figure to argue for the bill prior to its passage in December 2017, as well as directly after. During a February 2018 speech in Ohio, he claimed “economists estimate that our business tax cut will raise the income of a typical family by an average of $4,000.” Vice President Mike Pence has repeated that talking point, as have others in the White House.

On Tuesday, the Bureau of Labor Statistics issued a new release detailing the “real earnings summary” through May 2018.
The true revelation was tucked away at the bottom of the release, in the “Production and nonsupervisory employees” section: “From May 2017 to May 2018, real average hourly earnings decreased 0.1 percent, seasonally adjusted,” it read.
In today’s dollars, that’s a change from making an average of $22.62 per hour last May to making $22.59 per hour this May.

The report continued, “The decrease in real average hourly earnings combined with a 0.6-percent increase in the average workweek resulted in a 0.5-percent increase in real average weekly earnings over this period.” In other words, people are working a few more hours a week, so they’re taking home more pay, but only marginally.
The entire rationale behind the tax cut was to boost Americans’ wages. But the BLS numbers prove that workers who are not bosses and who produce things are in fact making less for their time than they did last year.

Center for American Progress policy analyst Alex Rowell constructed a chart based on the BLS data, showing the steep decline since 2015 in year-over-year annual hourly wage earnings for production and non-supervisory employees. (ThinkProgress is an editorially independent newsroom housed within the Center for American Progress.) Production and nonsupervisory employees make up 80 percent of private employment, according to Rowell.

Averages tell only part of the story
. The raises that high earners receive could represent a huge portion of any average wage growth increase, while low-income earners pull in less than they did before. Median earnings data would give a better picture of what most people are experiencing.

Taking into account all employees — including bosses and non-production employees — the year-to-year change in real wages was flat from May 2017 to May 2018
. Real average hourly earnings for both groups increased 0.1 percent from April 2018 to May 2018.
In real terms, the average worker made $10.75 per hour in May and $10.74 per hour in April.

According to Jared Bernstein of the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, since Trump took office, the “real hourly pay of mid-class workers” is only up 0.4 percent, which amounts to “an extra dime an hour.”
“At this rate, that tax-cut induced $4,000 in your paycheck will take 28 years,” Bernstein wrote.

Part of the reason wages are not rising is that inflation has now hit a six-year high, which eats into what workers earn.

However, the main problem is that the largest focus of the tax cut plan was targeted at corporations and the wealthiest Americans. The people who run companies like AT&T, Wells Fargo, and Comcast began a public push, helped along by the White House and Republicans in Congress, to hype up the bonuses they were awarding to their workers — the clearest demonstration of “trickle-down” economics available. However, the total of those announced bonuses totaled roughly $981 million, while the cost of the tax bill was actually $1.4 trillion, meaning workers got only 0.9 percent, according to analysis by ThinkProgress.

Many of those business, including Walmart, touted the bonuses they were giving just as they were using their tax savings to offer stock buybacks to shareholders and to offset the cost of closing stores where thousands of people worked. In a USA Today op-ed titled, “That $4,000 raise Donald Trump and Paul Ryan promised you was a trickle-down lie,” venture capitalist and entrepreneur Nick Hanauer explained, “Businesses don’t give raises just because they got a tax cut.”

And because the bonuses only happen once, workers won’t get more unless yearly wages rise — which they haven’t been, according to the federal government’s own data.
https://thinkprogress.org/wages-down-for-workers-since-tax-cut-dae56113144b/
 

georges

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Pay attention folks. Liberal lies in play here. The tax cuts were never sold as a platfirm to boost the hourly wage, they were sold that they were going to result in more take home pay and they have.Lower entry level jobs are not seeing significant increases why? BECAUSE THE MARKET IS FLOODED WITH ILLEGALS WILLING TO WORK FOR LESS AND EMPLOYERS THAT WOULD RATHER HIRE LOW WAGE ILLEGALS.
Inflation is also rising which the Fed should be addressing soon.
This is a skewing by the left who can’t stand that Trump’s policies are resulting in a booming economy.
Oh, and it’s just not the United States,it’s even worse in France.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/10/07/business/wages-versus-unemployment.html

Now run along and get your hug.
 

georges

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Staff member
Pay attention folks. Liberal lies in play here. The tax cuts were never sold as a platfirm to boost the hourly wage, they were sold that they were going to result in more take home pay and they have.Lower entry level jobs are not seeing significant increases why? BECAUSE THE MARKET IS FLOODED WITH ILLEGALS WILLING TO WORK FOR LESS AND EMPLOYERS THAT WOULD RATHER HIRE LOW WAGE ILLEGALS.
Inflation is also rising which the Fed should be addressing soon.
This is a skewing by the left who can’t stand that Trump’s policies are resulting in a booming economy.
Oh, and it’s just not the United States,it’s even worse in France.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/10/07/business/wages-versus-unemployment.html

Now run along and get your hug.

Good post :clap:
 

Harpsman

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Looks like the President didn't deliver what he promised I.e. the average family hasn't benefited as predicted.
 

bobjustbob

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Wait a minute Moe. Walmart is buying back stock? If I work at Walmart and participate in their stock program I get a jump? Hell yea.
 

Harpsman

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Did you read anything that was posted here, other than that which suits your narrative?

I don't have a narrative. It's just another example of politicians failing to deliver on a promise. It happens all over the world at all levels of governance. It's rightly exposed but it's just not such a big surprise.
 
I don't have a narrative. It's just another example of politicians failing to deliver on a promise. It happens all over the world at all levels of governance. It's rightly exposed but it's just not such a big surprise.

Shut up !
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Rey C.

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Looks like the President didn't deliver what he promised I.e. the average family hasn't benefited as predicted.

Correct. Not as far as real wages, not yet anyway. But where the article in the OP falls short is that we haven't yet seen the full effect of the tax cuts on real wages or the economy. With any sort of fiscal policy action, there is what's known as a lag factor. Monetary policy actions tend to be felt more quickly. Fiscal policy usually takes several quarters to be fully felt. As far as bonuses and raises though, I don't disagree. Most market followers already knew that publicly traded corporations would use a great portion of their repatriation and corporate tax cuts to buy back shares - and they have. As was said, businesses don't give raises just because they got a tax cut. A raise is a permanent increase in wages, while a bonus is temporary or periodic. You can stop or reduce a bonus, but taking back a raise is very problematic. But as Bob pointed out, while workers may not have seen the rise in the equity markets in their incomes, they have felt it in their 401Ks and IRAs... assuming they were investing, as they should have been.

Where I think the tax cuts will benefit workers is through economic growth, which does lead to an expansion of the demand for labor... which *should* lead to higher wages in time. For only the second or third time since World War II, we have a situation where there are more job openings than unemployed people. The labor market has hit a tipping point that should help boost wages: There are more job openings in the U.S. than unemployed workers to fill them. In skilled trades and professions, we're already experiencing wage growth, because businesses can't find enough skilled people to fill open positions.

My main point of contention with the tax cuts is that they are permanent for businesses/corporations, but temporary for individuals. And also, just as a matter of principle (and following a campaign promise), Trump should have demanded that certain "favored" categories (like private equity) should lose their special treatment. Carried interest should have been the first order of business to be killed off, IMO.
 

georges

Moderator
Staff member
Correct. Not as far as real wages, not yet anyway. But where the article in the OP falls short is that we haven't yet seen the full effect of the tax cuts on real wages or the economy. With any sort of fiscal policy action, there is what's known as a lag factor. Monetary policy actions tend to be felt more quickly. Fiscal policy usually takes several quarters to be fully felt. As far as bonuses and raises though, I don't disagree. Most market followers already knew that publicly traded corporations would use a great portion of their repatriation and corporate tax cuts to buy back shares - and they have. As was said, businesses don't give raises just because they got a tax cut. A raise is a permanent increase in wages, while a bonus is temporary or periodic. You can stop or reduce a bonus, but taking back a raise is very problematic. But as Bob pointed out, while workers may not have seen the rise in the equity markets in their incomes, they have felt it in their 401Ks and IRAs... assuming they were investing, as they should have been.

Where I think the tax cuts will benefit workers is through economic growth, which does lead to an expansion of the demand for labor... which *should* lead to higher wages in time. For only the second or third time since World War II, we have a situation where there are more job openings than unemployed people. The labor market has hit a tipping point that should help boost wages: There are more job openings in the U.S. than unemployed workers to fill them. In skilled trades and professions, we're already experiencing wage growth, because businesses can't find enough skilled people to fill open positions.

My main point of contention with the tax cuts is that they are permanent for businesses/corporations, but temporary for individuals. And also, just as a matter of principle (and following a campaign promise), Trump should have demanded that certain "favored" categories (like private equity) should lose their special treatment. Carried interest should have been the first order of business to be killed off, IMO.

well said:coolthumb::hatsoff:
 
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