system recovery: lost everything

meesterperfect

Hiliary 2020
hi everybody.
well today my computer wouldn't start after a restart.
tried about 20 times.
so I stupidly hit f10 system restore not being aware that it would delete all my files.
It did.
Now my computer is exactly the same as when I bought it.
same dumb programs, same settings, and all my photos and video (not just porn) are gone.
My favorites, my passwords, my programs, everything gone
I have windows xp.
I know it is possible to retrieve these files, but its complicated and I can't find any info on how, just websites trying to sell solutions.
I talked to a computer guy and he wants $150 to get them back, if possible, no guarantees.

Anybody know how to do this?
I appreciate any help.
 
No problem. Just restore your backup. I sure you know the ten rules on computing. All ten rules say backup. :dunno:
 

Namreg

Banned
xp doesn't "delete" anything from a hard drive, it merely makes things inaccessible and then writes over them if space is tight. that is why dedicated data removers write over every sector of your drive at least a couple of times just to make sure.

if you have only restored your system it is quite possible for a lot of your data to still be there. go to
http://www.softpedia.com
and search for "recover", there are several freeware tools listed that may help you.

in the future, remember one easy rule:
always split your hard drive into two partitions, 15GB or so for XP, and the rest for your programs/files. that way nothing gets wiped out if you have to reinstall windows. if you don't have an actual XP CD (because your PC only came with a disc image), then you can "obtain" one from the usual sources... or buy a second drive for your data.
 
in the future, remember one easy rule:
always split your hard drive into two partitions, 15GB or so for XP, and the rest for your programs/files. that way nothing gets wiped out if you have to reinstall windows. if you don't have an actual XP CD (because your PC only came with a disc image), then you can "obtain" one from the usual sources... or buy a second drive for your data.

I gotta learn to do that... :thumbsup:

For the $150 dollar thing... if you really can't get them back think about how important those files are to you. Would you be willing to pay money? IF there was lots of important stuff, and I mean LOTS, then I'd probably do it :dunno:
 
I gotta learn to do that... :thumbsup:

For the $150 dollar thing... if you really can't get them back think about how important those files are to you. Would you be willing to pay money? IF there was lots of important stuff, and I mean LOTS, then I'd probably do it :dunno:

If you only have one partition, you can try to shrink that partition by using disk management, right click "my computer" click on manage, then go to Storage -> Disk management withing the popped up window. Right click your C: Partition, and Click on Shrink Volume.... and there you go, don't need some crappy app like Partition Magic.

For the restoration of lost files, did you have another system restore point? Did you have backups of all your data (i.e. a disk image or something of the sort)? If not, his will be hard, and I'd pay someone like myself to do it, if you want I'll burn some midnight oil tonight and find you the answer. For next time, follow the partition thing above, and go download a thing called Clonezilla, and put a shiny new disk image on that new spare partition you create. Also, you need how to use the system restore points in XP. You do have XP pro correct? Make sure right before you image the disk, you make 1 restore point, that way if you have to reinstall the disk image, you have 1 point to go back to as well. Just my :2 cents:.
 
If you only have one partition, you can try to shrink that partition by using disk management, right click "my computer" click on manage, then go to Storage -> Disk management withing the popped up window. Right click your C: Partition, and Click on Shrink Volume.... and there you go, don't need some crappy app like Partition Magic.

Good point...but how does that protect my data? I was wondering how to do two partitions so "my data can be safe" in case XP breaks down again :dunno:
 
xp doesn't "delete" anything from a hard drive, it merely makes things inaccessible and then writes over them if space is tight. that is why dedicated data removers write over every sector of your drive at least a couple of times just to make sure.
Unfortunately he restored the original, OEM system image. That means his core File Allocation Table entries (the FAT is still used in both FAT and NTFS filesystems) will have been radically changed, especially the root of the filesystem's directory entries.

if you have only restored your system it is quite possible for a lot of your data to still be there. go to
http://www.softpedia.com
and search for "recover", there are several freeware tools listed that may help you.
Maybe. All he'll get is maybe some of his data. He'll definitely have to re-install programs, etc... It's worth a try though.

in the future, remember one easy rule:
always split your hard drive into two partitions, 15GB or so for XP, and the rest for your programs/files. that way nothing gets wiped out if you have to reinstall windows.
15GiB is nothing for XP, and Vista is more like 40GiB as well.

With today's hard drives, I always recommend at least 32GiB for XP, maybe 64GiB, for the C: filesystem. Then create a D: drive for additional programs. Consider putting your data on a little, $100 SOHO (Small Office, Home Office) NAS (Network Attached Storage) device (or a server if you want to build one and get more into IT stuff, especially if you have an old PC not being used), mount that as your H: drive and save files there. You can backup your server files to your desktop, so if the NAS device ever croaks, you still have a copy of your files. If your desktop ever croaks, your NAS still has your H: drive. Etc...

if you don't have an actual XP CD (because your PC only came with a disc image), then you can "obtain" one from the usual sources... or buy a second drive for your data.
Unfortunately, a second hard drive doesn't doesn't keep Windows from self-fucking itself, only a hard drive falure.

I've had users run Firefox w/Noscript, running as an unpriviledged user, and Windows XP will still find a way to self-fuck itself within 2 years. Back in the DOS-based Windows days (which I utterly avoided supporting, and always stuck with NT-based Windows or just Linux deskops on my networks), it was always within 6 months. In other words, the MTBF between hardware failure and Windows self-fuck, even on a controlled network, is that the latter is always lower (higher failure rate). Thank God for re-imaging.

In all cases, I just use Linux to deploy, provision and image Windows systems (including networks with thousands of both OSes, among a few others). But I know that's not feasible for home users. Most corporations these days just run VMware ESx Server, even for increasing desktops too (remote virtualization), which is Red Hat Enterprise Linux 3 with their hypervisor for the virutalization.

Microsoft keeps fucking up though. The 64-bit Vista that came with my new notebook has less support for the hardware than 64-bit Linux (Fedora). They cannot keep going that route, and the alleged NT 7 / "Windows 7" is nothing more than NT 6.1 / "Vista 2" and not a new kernel or approach. But I won't go back to the chronic fuck-up they made in the mid '90s that caused all this (Windows 95 should have never existed).

In any and all cases, I strongly continue to recommend Firefox w/Noscript add-on. Especially if you're going to do porn. And for God sakes, do not run with Administrator privilege when you surf porn. Switch user to a dedicated user without it and what you use to surf porn.
 
Backup to DVD-R

Good point...but how does that protect my data? I was wondering how to do two partitions so "my data can be safe" in case XP breaks down again :dunno:
Super Multiformat DVD-RAM/-R/RW/+R/+RW drives are $20. DVD-R discs are dimes. You can fit 4.7GiB (4.35GB) on a single DVD.

Have a nice day ... ;)

Honestly, probably the cheapest and most recommended option to backup your files. Just create a little backup jobbie with the software that often comes with the drives, drop in a blank DVD-R every Saturday night or so, and kick it off.
 
Microsoft keeps fucking up though. The 64-bit Vista that came with my new notebook has less support for the hardware than 64-bit Linux (Fedora). They cannot keep going that route, and the alleged NT 7 / "Windows 7" is nothing more than NT 6.1 / "Vista 2" and not a new kernel or approach. But I won't go back to the chronic fuck-up they made in the mid '90s that caused all this (Windows 95 should have never existed).

In any and all cases, I strongly continue to recommend Firefox w/Noscript add-on. Especially if you're going to do porn. And for God sakes, do not run with Administrator privilege when you surf porn. Switch user to a dedicated user without it and what you use to surf porn.
Starters.
You hate vista (windows 6 build 6000/6001) becuase.... you don't know how to configure it. Also, you hate windows since 3.11, got it. Also, don't knock lack of 64 bit support. That was majority of fault for the damn manufacturers and partially on Microsoft for not implementing cheese dick drivers. If you did ride the XP 64 bit wave, like I did, you'd know. Now with the beta of windows 7 (or how you put it windows vista 2), did you notice some changes? I sure have. Main thing.... compatibility, and UAC. For the self-fucking timer, ha! I've ran xp, stable for 4 years. Not only that, but even w/o a blue screen during those 4 years. Take MCDST, those classes will tell you all about apps, for xp. For NTFS, great file system, not one issue period. Also, kinda really skeptical that Firefox crashes windows xp/vista/7 by just running, or so it sounds with your 3-4 reference to it running noscript (yet again a simple config edit can fix that).

But this thread isn't about why Windows sucks, Firefox, or User accounts, it's about restoring lost data.

Fact #1, Last restore point - OEM Restore point
Tip for next time, Create Restore Points for windows, every few weeks or whenever you install a new App.

Fact #2, Nothing is deleted - except for Registry values / Kernel
Tip, look at above posts, there was a link for some freeware, go try it, it can't hurt. Make sure that you set a restore point/disk image before you try to retrieve data.

Also, if you are feeling cheeky, go run regedit, and add the values you need back to the registry (notice this is beyond normal user, don't try unless you have a how to, or an example). If not try to find MSI files to fix your registry for you.

For prevention of this in the future:

Fear of corruption, make a disk image of your C: partition after you make a good restore point, so you have a full backup of your HDD. On DVD's?? Well with prices, I'd say no, it's cheaper to repartition your HDD (note my above post), or go buy a internal 500GB/1TB/1.5TB HDD I think it's worth the money.

Fear of Data loss, my god, image the disk, and make a direct copy of it, and never use that copied HDD ever, ever, again. I mean unplug it, and store it in a safe deposit box in Switzerland.

Hate windows, Go buy MAC or install Linux, or that snappy OS2 Warp. If you have skill, go install MAC OS on a PC, and edit the configs. Have fun, it takes a lot of time. Linux might be your cup of tea, especially if you want to play with WINE, or want to learn.

Here's my :2 cents: Use a C: partition for XP around, hmmm 25GB. That is the recommended number, use it. Secondly, go search Maximum PC, and find all the tweaks for xp that you want. Then create a system restore point on your PC, then disk image C: partition. This way when you get an error, you have a great copy of everything, that is stable. Just an Idea, use it if you want.
 
:2 cents: Just speaking from my experience...

I've never had any luck with system restore helping me (across multiple Windows operating systems). I'll never count on any Windows software now or ever to be there for me.

Best thing I've done is read up ahead of time on how to get things up and running again, become comfortable with how to do it, get data worth keeping on an external hard drive (or can be DVDs as someone else suggested) and partition the system drive into two as suggested. Once a month or so I go through what I've saved on my system drive and decide what is still worth keeping. I usually end up just deleting 70-80% of it.

I'm not a super geek but there's plenty of sites to help learn the basics.
 
Starters.
You hate vista (windows 6 build 6000/6001) becuase.... you don't know how to configure it.
Really? What if I told you I completed the MCDST and MCITP programs with 0 study and 0 classes? (and have held MCSA/MCSE with Security, Messaging, etc.. specialties prior, all with 0 classes). Don't assume what I do for a living, let alone Windows is not my prior platform (although the Linux infrastructures I build often control WinPE boot, deployment, etc... as well as it almost always runs atop of Linux-based w/proprietary hypervisor, VMware ESX Server). I have understood Windows internals far better than any other consultant I've run into, other than the few developers I know from Digital, Microsoft, etc... over the years.

My favorite? .NET. We in the UNIX world loved the .NET security model. The problem? Microsoft didn't adopt it, except for select web applications. Duh, that's what Java already does. Oh, wait, that's right, it's called .NET and C# because Microsoft won (in a lawsuit) the right to the Java 1.1 codebase (they later relicensed Java 1.4 aka "Java 2" for .NET 2), but lost the right to call it "Java" in another case. They didn't adopt any of the security model for the OS. I personally cornered one of Microsoft's core architects on that in a public debate, and damn if he didn't fess up that it wasn't going into Longhorn well before release.

Also, you hate windows since 3.11, got it.
I hate DOS-based Windows. I implemented and supported OS/2 and then NT instead from the very late '80s to when NT 3.1 first came out in '93.

When Gates fucked NT in 1994 by pushing "Chicago" (DOS 7 / Windows 4), NT was forever fucked. They took a good Win32 API and OS platform and utterly destroyed its base and API. Win32 today is nothing like Win32 then, and MSIE is all over everything in the core OS when it shouldn't be.

Also, don't knock lack of 64 bit support. That was majority of fault for the damn manufacturers and partially on Microsoft for not implementing cheese dick drivers.
Microsoft own, damn tool base is a x86, data aligned ignorant, mess of compilers and libraries.

Their own Office team is a great read on how horrible their codebase is for porting off of x86 to something like PowerPC. They have never and will never have sustainable codebase in OS or applications. And it starts with their tools.

Hell, I knew a lot of the guys at Digital that developed a lot of NT, and they constantly complained about Microsoft's utter lack of using the functions, and preferring legacy DOS interfaces. Nowdays, Microsoft outsources so much they don't even have architects that can control it.

Their one, short-lived security head in 2003 flat out stated that Windows was not designed for the Internet, and he had his head chopped off for being honest and wanting to fix the problem.

If you did ride the XP 64 bit wave, like I did, you'd know. Now with the beta of windows 7 (or how you put it windows vista 2), did you notice some changes? I sure have. Main thing.... compatibility, and UAC.
The UAC is a result of "Chicago" ignoring the inherit MAC/RBAC (Mandatory / Role-Based Access Controls) that were fucking built into Win32 and NT 3.1 from Day 1.

Because DOS 7-based Windows 95 had no such concept (let alone no separation of kernel-user, let alone continually shunted the processor between Real86 and Protected386, no different than 386Enchanced mode prior -- proven by Caldera in their filings), every Microsoft application ignored it.

That's why no application from Microsoft itself never passed their own, "Designed for Windows 95 / Windows NT" logo suite. They had to change it. Because the samn Visual tools were still built for DOS and a lot of legacy, Win16 and not the pure Win32 API. They even tried to get Win32s adopted "early on" and their own application teams ignored it.

That's why NT has been fucked ever since.

For the self-fucking timer, ha! I've ran xp, stable for 4 years. Not only that, but even w/o a blue screen during those 4 years. Take MCDST, those classes will tell you all about apps, for xp.
Dude, see above. I took the exams without the classes. I've been doing NT since the 3.1 alpha. Yes, alpha. That's because of the relationship I had with Digital and other engineers by the nature of the software I ran for engineering purposes.

For NTFS, great file system, not one issue period.
Bullshit. There are so many inherit design flaws with tying Security IDs (SIDs) to the System Accounts Manager (SAM) that until NT 5.1, you could not safely move NTFS filesystems between different NT/2000 systems if the local SAM didn't match. That was one of the things early "Cario" technologies addressed, by moving the SAM to a network-wide impementation, hence the original NT domain model.

I now question if you even understand the basics of NTFS, the serious flaws in its original design, and the features added to the NTLM protocol over Lan Manager prior. If you don't, I highly recommend you read the Samba documentation, because it will take you on a full tour of the protocol -- browser, controller, domains as well as newer authentication, directory, etc... where Microsoft fucked up, fixed it, didn't fix it right, fucked up again.

Also, kinda really skeptical that Firefox crashes windows xp/vista/7 by just running, or so it sounds with your 3-4 reference to it running noscript (yet again a simple config edit can fix that).
Huh? My point was that because of certain automation in MSIE that cannot be disable, even if you disable ActiveX and Javascript, MSIE still lets some run. Otherwise you'd break many automations in the Windows executive, especially with Outlook and other details.

So my suggestion was to run Firefox + Noscript to avoid and guaranatee that you don't execute any scripts except those that are from sites you trust (like FreeOnes).

But this thread isn't about why Windows sucks, Firefox, or User accounts, it's about restoring lost data.
And yet the best way to self-fuck Windows is to use MSIE to surf porn, let alone as an administrative user, and no, UAC doesn't catch many things.

That's because running MS Office itself on Windows is a "privilege exploit." I invite you to read documentation on what functions are used when MS Office runs on top of NT 5, 5.1, 6 and even still in "7". It bypasses many controls.

This, again, goes back to their damn history on not actually implementing their own security models in the OS. First it was the inherent and most excellent MAC/RBAC from day one in NT 3.1. Then it was preferring DOS APIs that were finally added to NT 5.0 (2000), drastically improving application compatibility over NT 4.0. Now it's the damn UAC that is largely a "false sense of security" because many, select functions bypass it, including several calls discovered in MS Office.

Fact #1, Last restore point - OEM Restore point
Tip for next time, Create Restore Points for windows, every few weeks or whenever you install a new App.
Agreed.

Fact #2, Nothing is deleted - except for Registry values / Kernel
Tip, look at above posts, there was a link for some freeware, go try it, it can't hurt. Make sure that you set a restore point/disk image before you try to retrieve data.
I also stated that it can't hurt.

Also, if you are feeling cheeky, go run regedit, and add the values you need back to the registry (notice this is beyond normal user, don't try unless you have a how to, or an example). If not try to find MSI files to fix your registry for you.
Have you ever tried to dump a full tree in from a .reg file before? Dude, the registry is a fucking mess.

Hell, there was so much non-standard crap that went on between NT and "Chicago" that they couldn't even standardize where user profiles went, had all sorts of issues with MS IE, etc... One company, two groups that stomped on each other. That's the mess that created what we have today.

For prevention of this in the future:
Fear of corruption, make a disk image of your C: partition after you make a good restore point, so you have a full backup of your HDD.
Agreed!

In my case, I use a set of Linux utilities to do this, because the 3rd Gen Linux LDM/NTFS stack is pretty damn good now at imaging, movnig and restoring LDM/NTFS volumes.

On DVD's?? Well with prices, I'd say no, it's cheaper to repartition your HDD (note my above post), or go buy a internal 500GB/1TB/1.5TB HDD I think it's worth the money.
Dude, two things:

1. If it's a hard drive, connected and read/write, it can be corrupted

2. DVDs are easy to keep in a box somewhere else, and take a crapload less shock than a 3.5' drive.

There's nothing that says you can't use both -- a hard drive for full backup and DVD-R for the most critical stuff that fits on a single disk. In fact, they are quite complementary.

BTW, I recommend 2.5" drives over 3.5" drives when it comes to portable or removable storage. They can take 10x the shock, so far better for portables. Virtually all enterprise drives are now 2.5". 15Krpm has always been sub-3" platter, and everyone has now moved to 2.5" for 10Krpm+. The result is that 2.5" is getting more commodity, and they are far more reliable for porting. All of the datacenters I've worked in over the last 2 years have gone 2.5" disc, even for just more commodity 5400-7200rpm (in addition to all 10-15Krpm drives always being 2.5"), because of that size and environmental tolerance (with a greatly reduced rate of failures).

Fear of Data loss, my god, image the disk, and make a direct copy of it, and never use that copied HDD ever, ever, again. I mean unplug it, and store it in a safe deposit box in Switzerland.
Agreed, although also remember that commodity 3.5" drives are not ideal for storing long-term. If you've ever had to "knock" a drive that has been sitting to just break up its dried out lubricants, you know what I'm talking about. 3.5 drives are designed for several uses per week, no more than 8-14 hours continuous, to keep the annual, failure rate to 2.1% (aka MTBF of 400K hours).

Hate windows, Go buy MAC or install Linux, or that snappy OS2 Warp.
Huh? I don't 'hate' Windows. However, in my business, it's not what my clients use much, or it's always running atop of Linux (e.g., VMware ESX Server).

If you have skill, go install MAC OS on a PC,
Not! Apple regularly updates code to prevent that. If you want MacOS X, buy an Apple.

and edit the configs. Have fun, it takes a lot of time. Linux might be your cup of tea, especially if you want to play with WINE, or want to learn.
Why would I play with WINE?

If I'm going to run Windows apps, I'm going to run Windows. If I'm going to run MS Office, I'm going to run Windows. Running Linux to emulate Windows is stupid. Run Linux only if you are going to run native Linux apps, with rare exceptions.

Now there are several advantages to many Open Source apps. The Mac world has been waking up to OpenOffice.org over the years because document compatibility is better across platforms than MS Office is between Windows and Mac, by far, especially with even older MS Office documents. But it wasn't native Aqua. Now with OpenOffice.org 3, it is not only Aqua native, but now includes a Solver and basic VBA -- two things Microsoft yanked from MS Office 2008 for MacOS X, and pissed a lot of even their loyalists off. Again, I have met some of the Microsoft Office for Mac team over the years, and they absolutely hate how horrible and unportable the code is, which is also causing issues with porting to Win64. It's also one of the reasons they had to come up with OOXML, to "encapsulate" binary objects as BASE64 in between XML tags -- long story. ODF v. OOXML is a no-brainer, ODF explains a lot of legacy MS Office tags better than OOXML, and had 100x the scrutiny of OASIS and other organizations before it ever hit ISO, but that's another argument.

So if you're going to "consider" Linux, first consider running the many open source apps on Windows, and get your data over to open formats. Don't just "jump in" and run Linux and have to deal with all that change at once, let alone do not try to emulate Windows. Linux is not a better Windows for Windows apps, and never will be. About the only exception is for very, very old Windows apps where Microsoft has broken the API, but WINE can be tuned to emulate any variant of Windows -- in their, own words -- "bug for bug." But that's only useful for select, old, Windows apps, not anything in the last few years that definitely run on current Windows.

That's why I highly recommend Firefox + Noscript for your surfing, especially since MSIE allows a lot of things via key functions through. I have run into this over and over and over in financial networks and defense installations, and application-level filtering at a gateway only does so much.

Here's my :2 cents: Use a C: partition for XP around, hmmm 25GB. That is the recommended number, use it. Secondly, go search Maximum PC, and find all the tweaks for xp that you want. Then create a system restore point on your PC, then disk image C: partition. This way when you get an error, you have a great copy of everything, that is stable. Just an Idea, use it if you want.
I agree, entirely.

A lot of vendors offer Windows software to do this, and it's worth the cost. Make that copy of the C: filesystem and regularly update it so it makes restoration each. Separating out the D:, to keep C: smaller, is also ideal, and segments well. I didn't disagree with that.

For the more tech-savvy and with some Linux exposure, there's everything you need built into Linux to support a lot of OSes. That's why some of the most popular (and often free) "LiveCDs" for repairing and otherwise helping Windows are often based on a Linux stack.
 
hi everybody.
well today my computer wouldn't start after a restart.
tried about 20 times.
so I stupidly hit f10 system restore not being aware that it would delete all my files.
It did.
Now my computer is exactly the same as when I bought it.
same dumb programs, same settings, and all my photos and video (not just porn) are gone.
My favorites, my passwords, my programs, everything gone
I have windows xp.
I know it is possible to retrieve these files, but its complicated and I can't find any info on how, just websites trying to sell solutions.
I talked to a computer guy and he wants $150 to get them back, if possible, no guarantees.

Anybody know how to do this?
I appreciate any help.



Oh the Porn that was lost..noooooooooooo...
 
I`ve had loads of problems like that with my computer lately.Sometimes i think it`s more sodding trouble than it`s worth.If it wasn`t for e-mail,porn and FREEONES of course,i probably wouldn`t bother.


GOOD LUCK WITH IT.

:thumbsup:
 
We need a new TiVO-like of set-top, only for most on-line/home usage ...

I`ve had loads of problems like that with my computer lately.Sometimes i think it`s more sodding trouble than it`s worth.If it wasn`t for e-mail,porn and FREEONES of course,i probably wouldn`t bother.
What has been stated over and over again, in this age of high definition TVs with more than adequate resolution, is that people just need a Linux-based set-top box to do e-mail, surf the web, interact on-line and write some basic, business/personal correspondence.

TiVO cracked that with the Linux-based DVR appliance, utterly changing the landscape of how people use their TV for enterainment. Now if we could only expand the applications into a form that most users would accept.

It would bring not only system costs down, but cost of ownership. In fact, the latter part is why consoles scare the fuck out of Microsoft, so they got in it to help control it better. Sony fucked up on the PS3 out of BluRay, when they could have focused more on introducing that all-in-one, Linux/Cell platform as a generic appliance for a high-def life.

Oh well, we'll see in another 3-5 years where we're at, or not.
 
But this thread ... it's about restoring lost data.

In reference to my last post, use someone else to fix your problem, free solution is out there... My help stops here, won't go full blown tech on you, use a pro.

Plus I'm backing out of this thread because I don't want to clutter this with Tech History/Protocols/Text book answers. My last piece of advice, go read up 70-270, 70-271, and 70-272. Most of your issues Microsoft has tests for.

I'm out! :thumbsup:
 
Plus I'm backing out of this thread because I don't want to clutter this with Tech History/Protocols/Text book answers. My last piece of advice, go read up 70-270, 70-271, and 70-272. Most of your issues Microsoft has tests for.
Bullshit. Since when do any IT exams cover anything but if someone knows basics of design, provisioning, deployment and support? Even Cisco 2-day (CCIE) and Red Hat's 5-day (RHCA) lab-based exams cannot get to a lot of deeper issues and troubleshooting.

I have not only taken (and passed all) exams from over 10 different vendors and organizations (over 50 exams, all with 0 training), but I've been involved with writing several over the last decade. IT certification is not a validation of experience and understanding, and especially not a troubleshooting validation at all.

I find it very, very laughable that you would suggest such.

There is so many core issues and history, let alone some very embarrassing ones, that they don't go in the details. Especially on Windows networking protocols. If you talk to many, many core, Microsoft product specialists, they will admit that not only do the exams never touch the details that are necessary to understand when it comes to troubleshooting Windows networking, buut the open source documentation out there (e.g., Samba) is far, far more accurate -- especially in exposing a lot of version differences, breakage, etc...

If you ever want to talk about some whoppers, I'm game. I'll never forget the time that a patch to XP caused part of the authentication handshake to fail, and Windows 2003 servers just let it systems authenticate (because they weren't even enforcing it!), while Samba enforced it. The "fix" for Samba was, therefore, not to enforce it, and it generated a lot of interest.

The same has happened with other Microsoft services. I can go through various Exchange features that are not actually implemented, including no encryption for various reasons, even when you allegedly use an encrypted protocol. MS IE also has issues verifying encryption in multiple panes (God that gets me at banks I've worked at, long story), etc...

This is the crap they don't give you in the classes, and never will. No IT exam can. Although Microsoft has had a rather "interesting" history of covering up their own mistakes, and even blaming their own professionals instead of themselves.

E.g., the SQL Slammer worm was the fault of Microsoft's patching (including 2 latter patches uninstalling the fix), meaning people who did "stay current" were actually more suseptible than those who did not. "Passing the buck" to their own professionals is inexecusible, and I personally prevented the reprimand inside of a Fortune 100 company of a half dozen IT colleagues (MS SQL and Windows were not my primary duties there either) by proving Microsoft was at fault, and not our patch policy.

I am an extensively certified Microsoft professional who has been hacking NT since the 3.1 beta and every version since. I'm sorry, but you're pushing certification and I can tell you from not only Microsoft's programs, but everyone else's as well, that experience and peer correspondence and not some "cert training manual" is going to get you 20x farther.
 

meesterperfect

Hiliary 2020
ok So I found a way to recover alot.

I downloaded a program that claimed to find deleted files.
actually several programs, the first 3 found nothing.
One scanned the comp for about 90 minutes and seemed to find alot of stuff.
thousands of files, mostly deleted.
So I had to open each and look for my stuff (about 6 hours work in total)

The thing is it will find them for you, but if you want to recover them you gotta pay.

But I figured out a way to cheat the program.

After i found each file ( video, pics, favorites, documents, ect) I clicked on it.
But it gives you a message saying you gotta pay.
HOWEVER........when I clicked on the file it appeared in a temp file, and from there I simply dragged it onto the desktop.

the files lost their names so now i need to rename them.
I think Ifound about 75% of my stuff, but about 25% of those are damaged.

So thats that.
The program is called getbackdata.
And thanks to those who offered advice.
 
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