Sweden to offer returning ISIS fighers housing, benefits to reintigrate

[sean miguel]

I don't even know where to begin with this cuckery:

Swedish city to offer returning Isis fighters housing and benefits in reintegration programme

A programme to rehabilitate former Isis fighters and other extremists with housing, employment, education and financial support is being trialled in Sweden.

Local authorities in the city of Lund say the controversial measures aim to reintegrate returned jihadis into society and prevent them reverting to their former networks.

Anna Sjöstrand, the municipal coordinator against violent extremism, acknowledged the proposals were controversial but argued that the same approach should be taken to Isis defectors as to those leaving organised crime and neo-Nazi groups.

“When this subject came up we thought: ‘Oh god, how should we handle this’,” she told national broadcaster Sveriges Radio.

“Pretty quickly we realized that we should deal with this in the same way.

“If you have committed a criminal act should take responsibility for it, but there are many aspects - one could for example look at it in terms of cost.

“It is much cheaper to reintegrate a person into society than to abandon them, for example.”

Christoffer Carlsson, a criminologist, said he supported the plans after conducting a report on extremist defectors for the Swedish government.

He told Sveriges Radio people attempting to leave a group such as Isis need a way to break out of their networks and to avoid regression, adding: “You need resources, you need to reintegrate into the job market, you need a license, you need a roof over your head.

“I fail to see why you should treat people who leave violent extremism differently (to young criminals).”

A recent report found that the majority of European Isis fighters have a criminal background, with the group’s propaganda deliberately attempting to attract young men searching for redemption.

The approach pioneered in Lund is also reportedly being considered in the Swedish cities of Malmö, Borlänge and Örebro.

Around 140 Swedish foreign fighters are believed to have returned from Syria and Iraq, out of at least 300 who travelled to the region to join Islamist groups.

The country is believed to have one of the highest Isis fighters per capita in Europe, although it sits far behind France, the UK, Belgium and Germany in terms of numbers.

Methods of dealing with returning jihadis are a subject of fierce debate across Europe as the terrorist group continues to lose territory across Syria and Iraq, with fears of an influx of militants fleeing a major offensive in Iraq.

“The retaking of Isis’s northern Iraqi stronghold, Mosul, may lead to the return to Europe of violent Isis fighters,” said Julian King, Commissioner for the (European) Security Union.

Around one fifth of the group’s militants – 3,700 people – are residents or nationals of Western Europe, a King’s College London study estimated last year.

More than 800 jihadists are believed to have travelled from the UK to join other Isis and other Islamist groups in Syria and Iraq, with about half having returned.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...ducation-benefits-reintegration-a7371266.html


I don't want to hear another got damn word from cucked euros on what's going on in the USA. You people are beyond fucking stupid.

as are the democrats here.

 

[sean miguel]

"defectors"

they're coming back as part of their usual rotation or because they don't want to be killed.

how are they "defecting" from ISIS?

 

[sean miguel]

how are they "defecting" from ISIS when they're continuing their cause?

there are hundreds in the UK who have fought for ISIS

Young British Muslims think Isis fighters returning from Syria should be reintegrated into society, research finds

One says Government should 'give them a chance' and another warned 'otherwise they are gonna find another extremist group and join them'

Young British Muslims think Isis fighters returning from Syria should be reintegrated into society

and rehabilitated rather than being sent to prison, a study suggests.

The national study found young British Muslims across the UK believe returnee fighters should be reintegrated into society, with one saying the Government should “give them a chance” and another warning that “otherwise they are gonna find another extremist group and join them”.

Dr Imran Awan, Associate Professor of Criminology at Birmingham City University, told The Independent he was surprised so many were pro-rehabilitation, “because many young Muslim voices are never heard within the discourse on terrorism”.

Dr Awan interviewed with 25 male and 25 female British Muslims, aged between 14 and 25, from areas of the UK where there is a record of people travelling to Syria and joining Isis, to collect their views on why they think young Muslims travel to fight for jihadi groups, and what they think should happen when they return.

One interviewee warned: “When people feel isolated and angry because they are not being treated with respect and if they go out and fight in Syria and when they come back there is no help, then I promise you, you will see more terrorism because these young people will think why should I do anything when my own Government don’t care about me.”

As many as 800 Britons are estimated to have travelled to fight for or support jihadi groups in Syria or Iraq, and around half are feared to have returned to the UK.

Last year, the Government admitted just 14 of nearly 400 returnee fighters have been jailed, raising fears the rest are living off the radar and may be vulnerable to radicalisation.
The Government's current strategy for returnee fighters is to convict and imprison those they can prove have committed a crime and refer the rest to the Channel deradicalisation programme.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...rn-reintegrate-society-research-a7682836.html

how about barring their re-entry and revoking their citizenship?

that wole thing on my part of admiring the british? romanticism. they are the epitomy of stupidy and cuckery. good riddance to bad rubbish.

 

[Jack Davenport]

I'm sorry, but I have no sympathy for Europe anymore. My heart goes out to those opposed to this insanity, but they need to rise up.

 

[sean miguel]

I'm sorry, but I have no sympathy for Europe anymore. My heart goes out to those opposed to this insanity, but they need to rise up.

no, they need to lay low and GTFO because they are hopelessly outnumbered.

#BATO

 

[Johan]

I'm not in favor of talkking former jihadis back in the country. That said, Sweden has a pretty good record for rehabilitating criminals so maybe they can rehabilitate jihadis...

"defectors"

they're coming back as part of their usual rotation or because they don't want to be killed.

how are they "defecting" from ISIS?

They are defecting because they realised it's not what they thought it was, they are not doing what they thought they would do.

"Don't want to be killed" ? We're talking about people who would have signed to be martyrs, who who have died for their god, knowing it it would grant him a very special place in Heaven, along with 72 virgins.

They thought they would be soldiers of God and they're just slaves for bullies

I'm sorry, but I have no sympathy for Europe anymore.

As if you had some in the first place...

 

[meesterperfect]

Its not really the peoples fault its the unelected leaders of the EU and the politicians of the countrys there.
They are the ones who sold their souls.
Allowed it to happen.
And Americans, its your fucking invasions that created the whole problem to begin with.

Again, the politicians and unelected neocons/libs who sold their souls and MADE it happen.

This is 100% in our faces obvious.
So maybe the logical next step is to ask why and then figure out a way to stop it.

I'm getting tired of having to push people into thinking beyond the surface, to look a little deeper at things SO YOU CAN UNDERSTAND MORE.

Knowledge is power.

Most people here and all over can't seem to look much farther into anything to get to the truth.
I dont know if its laziness or conditioning but I rarely see it anywhere.
Are we really that easily manipulated? Is divide and conquer really that easy to do?

Yes there is a very serious problem with all the mass immigration.
Its causing a lot of problems and will eventually lead to civil wars and chaos.
Which at that piont the EU and the Governments are going to use their Military and MIliterized police forces to round up both sides.
What do you think all the fake terror attacks are about?
Fucking drills to train to order followers and the people as well.
I'm talking about these idiots trying to pay off their mortgage

And the poor scared sheep

So you can fall for the bullshit and go with the Christain/Whites VS. Muslims manipulation.
Ain't gonna help any.
Or you can look a little further and Identify the source of the shit and do what you can to stop it.
Just being aware is a big thing. If the majority was aware that would stop it or force them to expose themselves.

Thank you, Thank you kindly.

 

[LunaMo]

Good luck to Sweden

 

[sean miguel]

I'm not in favor of talkking former jihadis back in the country. That said, Sweden has a pretty good record for rehabilitating criminals so maybe they can rehabilitate jihadis...

"Don't want to be killed" ? We're talking about people who would have signed to be martyrs, who who have died for their god, knowing it it would grant him a very special place in Heaven, along with 72 virgins.

but yeah, hopefully they can be rehabilitated.

 

[georges]

I'm not in favor of talkking former jihadis back in the country. That said, Sweden has a pretty good record for rehabilitating criminals so maybe they can rehabilitate jihadis...
They are defecting because they realised it's not what they thought it was, they are not doing what they thought they would do.
"Don't want to be killed" ? We're talking about people who would have signed to be martyrs, who who have died for their god, knowing it it would grant him a very special place in Heaven, along with 72 virgins. They thought they would be soldiers of God and they're just slaves for bullies

As if you had some in the first place...

These people hide their game well, you must be naive if you think that they are willing to reintegrate.They are manipulators who have blood on their hands.

 

[Johan]

These people hide their game well, you must be naive if you think that they are willing to reintegrate.They are manipulators who have blood on their hands.

but yeah, hopefully they can be rehabilitated.

Then how would you deal with them ?
Countries can't refuse to take them back their citizens.
Death penalty is not an option since it's illegal.

I'm in favor of everything that allows the government to keep a close eye on them and let them know they are being watched...

 

[sean miguel]

Then how would you deal with them ?
Countries can't refuse to take them back their citizens.
Death penalty is not an option since it's illegal.

I'm in favor of everything that allows the government to keep a close eye on them and let them know they are being watched...

they sure as hell can. and you can revoke their citizenship. heck, Obama stopped american citizens from coming back here by droning the fuck out of them overseas for being members of terrorist organizations. to his eternal credit.

 

[Johan]

Obama droning USQ citiozens (which is constitutionally arguable) was made possible by the Patriot Act. Europe countries don't have any legislation like this.
Revoking citizenship, is cvountries which allow it, not something governments can do overnight. There's a protocol that must be followed very seriously otherwise lawyers would plead mistrial

 

[sean miguel]

Obama droning USQ citiozens (which is constitutionally arguable) was made possible by the Patriot Act. Europe countries don't have any legislation like this.
Revoking citizenship, is cvountries which allow it, not something governments can do overnight. There's a protocol that must be followed very seriously otherwise lawyers would plead mistrial

When a U.S. citizen goes abroad to wage war against America and is actively plotting to kill U.S. citizens, and when neither the United States, nor our partners are in a position to capture him before he carries out a plot, his citizenship should no more serve as a shield than a sniper shooting down on an innocent crowd should be protected from a SWAT team.

-President Barack Obama



European countries don't have "legistlation like this?" French and British troops have both been deployed against ISIS and Al-Qaeda. There is no law that addresses a citizen of either country traveling abroad and actively fighting against their armed forces? Isn't that called treason?

 

[georges]

When a U.S. citizen goes abroad to wage war against America and is actively plotting to kill U.S. citizens, and when neither the United States, nor our partners are in a position to capture him before he carries out a plot, his citizenship should no more serve as a shield than a sniper shooting down on an innocent crowd should be protected from a SWAT team.

-President Barack Obama



European countries don't have "legistlation like this?" French and British troops have both been deployed against ISIS and Al-Qaeda. There is no law that addresses a citizen of either country traveling abroad and actively fighting against their armed forces? Isn't that called treason?

No sadly the European countries don't have such legislation.In France who banned the death penalty back then in 1981? The socialists

 

[georges]

Then how would you deal with them ?
Countries can't refuse to take them back their citizens.
Death penalty is not an option since it's illegal.

I'm in favor of everything that allows the government to keep a close eye on them and let them know they are being watched...

Laxist policies give shitty results all the time.Once a sell out always a sell out.Keeping a close eye on them will serve nothing because first they are citizens with dual citizenships so they don't consider themselves really French, second they will always stab you in the back when you don't expect it and they are a heavy burden for taxpayers.Yes, a bullet is a solution. The government under Hollande has proven its full stupidity and its inefficiency against terrorism.

 

[bobjustbob]

This is hilarious on so many fronts.

These people ran out of Sweden to create a new... what? New nation, rule the world, what? Sounds like treason to me. It's kind of like if I make a bet and my horse doesn't win, I can go to the window and get a refund.

Sweden already suppresses it's own people. It's called taxes. More than half of what you earn goes to the king. What right minded bearded mercenary wants to become a serf?

And I'm sure the people of Sweden would LOVE to have Abdulthe Butcher pushing a cart in front of them at their local Piggly Wiggly.

Its...

Thank you for sharing.

 

[himperv203]

My take on this matter would be that those returning from ISIS should be tried for war crimes. That is the correct thing to do. How do you reintegrate someone back to society once he has beheaded innocent people?

 

[sean miguel]

My take on this matter would be that those returning from ISIS should be tried for war crimes. That is the correct thing to do. How do you reintegrate someone back to society once he has beheaded innocent people?

agree 100% with you here FFS.

and that in bold sums it up perfectly.