should we castrate sex offenders?!?!

[Hot Mega]

Clearly some are more at risk though.


If you throw some manger in with the sharks knowing full well there is greater chance he'll be shredded than your average robber would then I don't see how the jailers can abdicate responsibility on the basis of 'this is prison, shit happens'


It doesn't fit with western ideals about justice.

Every prisoner has (and would have) the same protection. Prison guards do what they can to keep weapons out of prisoner's hands for the protection of themselves and any other inmate. They do what they can to prevent fights because fights can lead to riots which endanger themselves as well as other inmates.

Again, what should happen to them was my words. What would be happening though is we just wouldn't be giving people extra protection based on their crimes.

You have a constitutional right to due process and against cruel and unusual punishment. You have no constitutional right to extra protection based on the type of crime you've committed.

 

[emceeemcee]

Again, what should happen to them was my words. What would be happening though is we just wouldn't be giving people extra protection based on their crimes.

You have a constitutional right to due process and against cruel and unusual punishment. You have no constitutional right to extra protection based on the type of crime you've committed.

When a group of inmates are put into a situation where some are more safe than others, then you are already creating a system of special treatment for some of those inmates.

Yes, housing pedos in seperate facilities would be giving them different treatment than normal, but the only alternative is to sentence them to a form of corporal punishment that hasn't been sanctioned by the legal system, is not part of their sentence and runs contrary to civilized society.


I chose enlightenment values over taliban 'justice' :2 cents:

 

[Kingfisher]

Yes. There's some that I would say no to, that the court calls them sex offenders. Like the 17 year old guy who has sex with his 17 year old girlfriend, he dumps her and she gets pissed about it, cries rape or whatever.

But then there's those individuals which are labeled, "dangerous", "repeat", "habitual", "should never be allowed near children"...

Then California releases those types back into the world and they do it again. Like that repeat offender down in San Diego.

Those types should be physically castrated. The state knows which ones they are, yet they don't do anything about it.

 

[Ike Stain]

The reality is, people don't molest kids because they're pedophiles, they do it because they're predators.

For instance, I can guarantee you any guy who is honest will admit that there is a definite sexual allure to adolescent girls (it's in the genetic code and until about a century ago, they were fair game.) The reason they don't bang them is not because they might not want to, but because they subscribe to the rules of society and not predators.

So you can cut off a predator's dick and balls, but it ain't gonna stop them doing shit. Once they cross that line, they need to be removed from society in order to prevent them doing it again.

States that parole them need to look at recidivism rates, which I understand are very high in these cases, and weigh them against the value of that percentage the can actually be reformed.

Most of us would probably agree that the sacrifice should be of those who made a mistake and may have been able to reform, not the innocent who are made vulnerable by releasing dangerous offenders, and approach it from that angle.

Now, if you want to cut off their cock and balls for purely vindictive reasons, that's another animal, but I guarantee it's going to be legally tricky and probably fairly expensive.

The other thing we need to get better at as a society is not stigmatizing the disorder to the point where people are discouraged from seeking treatment.

A lot of pedophiles were victims themselves; the goal should be get treatment for people who are fixated in this way in order to stop them repeating the cycle.

:2 cents:

 

[vodkazvictim]

If we murdered everyone in the world, no one would ever again molest or be molested. This is the only certain solution.

Valid point.
Rarely heard tho. No idea why :dunno:

 

[Hot Mega]

When a group of inmates are put into a situation where some are more safe than others, then you are already creating a system of special treatment for some of those inmates.

Yes, housing pedos in seperate facilities would be giving them different treatment than normal, but the only alternative is to sentence them to a form of corporal punishment that hasn't been sanctioned by the legal system, is not part of their sentence and runs contrary to civilized society.


I chose enlightenment values over taliban 'justice' :2 cents:

We just disagree then. Especially with the premise that some are more safe than others. It is exactly the case that some are more safe than others under your proposition.

Why should certain offenders be housed in safer circumstances than someone than other inmates?

The question was rhetorical. We just disagree on this one.

 

[Ike Stain]

Valid point.
Rarely heard tho. No idea why :dunno:

I know, right? Let's get down to fucking brass tacks (and I don't mean that literally, cause that would hurt my penis.)

 

[Straight Shooter]

Let me be the voice of reason here and say no. I think going to prison is bad enough. In prison sex offenders/child molesters are looked down upon along with "rats" by the other inmates which is why they are separated from the other inmates, so no need to for castration.

 

[Marlo Manson]

I say they can choose castration or take a Mandatory Minimum 50 years sentence!!! hell I'd even say they deserve too go too prison for life... But that means the Tax payers eat the cost of imprisonment for all those years.. damned if you do, damned if you don't!!

 

[betagammapi]

No, you don't need to do that. Just put them all on some nice little island in the middle of the ocean, drop off some food now and then to keep the torture going, and when they get 'the urge' they can just go at it with their fellow sex offenders.

 

[domshooter]

we should kill em. child molesters, rapists etc. they serve no purpose in our world

 

[JnR]

Man, the ignorance of some of you people on this forum is out of this world.

You know that not all sex offenders are male? What would you do with Debra LaFave? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debra_Lafave

Or what about this teacher who was just charged with having sex with a 16 year old in her car? http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2011/01/05/plainfield-teacher-charged-with-sex-with-student-16/

Yes what they do to children and even adults is very hurtful and traumatizing, but how are you gonna stoop to their level and say, "Fuck it, let them burn. Kill them all!." When you say shit like that you only make yourself look like a fool. How many times have you been pulled over and hoped to god that the cop gives you a second chance and not write you a ticket? Men and women who offend should be given a second chance at society AFTER they serve out their mandatory prison sentence and successfully complete a sex offender treatment program. Don't worry about the men or women who have been caught and are rehabilitating their self, worry about the ones who have not been caught yet.

It's ignorant to be on a forum where the main content is porn and have such animosity against sex offenders. Porn is an excellent gateway to commit a sex crime because it puts thoughts and fantasies in your head and some people act out on it. How many times have you watched a girl and claimed to be a "barely legal teen?" You sure didn't mind that, huh? I bet you also jerked off to the fact that she was "barely legal."

 

[mrtrebus]

Instead why don't we just lock up all the sexy children? :dunno:

Have I gone too far?
:dunno:

 

[mrtrebus]

Man, the ignorance of some of you people on this forum is out of this world.

You know that not all sex offenders are male? What would you do with Debra LaFave? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debra_Lafave

Or what about this teacher who was just charged with having sex with a 16 year old in her car? http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2011/01/05/plainfield-teacher-charged-with-sex-with-student-16/

A good point. People don't like to accept the fact that women are also guilty of this crime.

 

[D-rock]

What happens if later on they are proven innocent? That's a large part of the reason why punishments that are permanent and can’t be reversed shouldn't be done. Another reason I wouldn't do it is because it just ends up being vengeance instead of justice and humanity shouldn't use vengeance for anything.

 

[Elwood70]

Should we castrate sex offenders?






Yes,with a .12 gauge....let 'em bleed out like that motherfucker in Pulp Fiction.

... humanity shouldn't use vengeance for anything.

It's not vengeance.......it's punishment.

 

[Ziggous]

So what do we do with the women?

 

[domshooter]

im not saying we kill em outright when theyre arrested. they get their trial, as the law states. when all choices are exhausted and they are proven guilty then they die. sex offenders always repeat. there is no rehabilitating them and there never will be. male/female, doesnt matter, they serve no purpose in our society. pretty much all felonies in the same area should be punishable by death

 

[Scarface7]

Absolutely not. Two wrongs dont make a right.

 

[Elwood70]

So what do we do with the women?

Same thing....just put a condom on the barrel first.