I'm taking this tangent to a new thread.
My original response is here:
http://board.freeones.com/showthread.php?p=1765229
And I will respond to McRocket's post from here:
http://board.freeones.com/showthread.php?p=1765546
You did it in an attempt to hurt my feelings, and then gave some conflicting BS.
But that is besides the point ...
You want to lump them all into the "fat" category? Fine.
Most doctors are thrown BMI out-the-window, and started focusing on proportion.
A "quick check" is how far the gut of a woman sticks out when it comes to health and activity.
A more complex check has to do with width versus height.
It's not bullshit.
Those with apple figures live the shortest, as the weight is distributed higher and puts straight on their figure.
Those with hourglass figures live the longest, as the weight is more well distributed into their womanly figure.
Those with straight shapes live the second shortest, as their fat does not distribute well into any womanly figure, and head towards their gut first.
Those with pear shapes also live shorter as their weight goes into their hips, but is not well distributed upwards either.
I don't go for straight or pear-shaped women at all, never have.
I don't go for most apple-shaped women, because their best can be large without any bust.
I go for hourglass women who have ample hips and bust, and apple with hourglass-tendency women who have both as well.
I loved Kerry Marie when she was thin (size 8 or so), and when she was full, but still slender (under a size 20).
Now she's gotten too "fat" (to use your word and not be PC) because her gut is protruding way too much, and she is way too unhealthy.
I dated a gymnist who used to get called "fat" because she was extremely wide (over a size 10), but she was more fit than any "thin" woman.
Some models like Kate Dillon cannot be anything but a size 10 or larger.
Yes, she is probably a little more than "ideal" at a size 14, but she was anorexic and almost ****** herself with her diet at size 6 to maintain that "the next Cindy Crawford" title outside of her teenage years.
I like women of proportion -- hell -- that Fruit-of-the-Loom commercial of fuller women with curves makes me drool!
Even my wife noticed that and I was so aroused by it that we were typically intimate after seeing it.
I'm not doing it to win people over or impress people, I'm doing it so those "lesser appreciated" can appreciate themselves.
Understand that I don't like but less than 1% of women out there, and of those that are "fuller figured," only 5% catch my fancy.
It's those women who are wide, but slender or otherwise very proportional, and not 95%+ of full figured women.
It's rare that I like a BBW, and only those that are very proportional that I can't ignore.
Women such as Maria Moore or Samantha Anderson and only a few others.
Yes, most men don't want these women as they say.
But no, I don't go after over 95% of them because they don't match my preference for a womanly shape.
Heck, most of the women in the BBW thread I do not care for.
I like those in my FFW thread, and not all of them, but the hourglass or apple-hourglass that are womanly in my view.
They are the perfect women I love, and I know I'm not alone.
Understand it is nice for these women to hear how they are "different" from the "common fattie" they are lumped in with.
I'm will to agree that this applies to 95%+ of full figured women.
But it does not apply to the sub-5% of FFW I go for.
Yes, some can gain "too much weight," and I agree that has happened to Kerry Marie to the point of her being unhealthy.
But I'm sure some thought she was "fat" at her thinnest size 8, or "too soft" for their tastes.
Some will even lump her at her thinnest into the "fat" category, and not differentiate.
I still cannot believe the gymnist I dated was considered "fat" by some people.
And "almost no else does", eh?
Glad to see you're finally honest and not just someone who "holds back" for fear of what people think.
It also goes to prove many things of what I've said about you all along.
In fact, you constantly beat yourself up for thinking the way you do, and then criticize all of us the way we think.
If you mean "not fat," then give us some metrics on what is "fat" and "not fat" besides Devyn Devine and my wife.
I freely admit that Devyn Devine is overweight, and she could drop about 2-4 sizes for health reasons.
But if you think her apple-hourglass frame could "shrink down" to something like, even looking at someone very curvy, Sandee Westgate or Crissy Moran, you're greatly mistaken.
Some women can't be that way, period, it's impossible, or Kate Dillon would be dead right now.
Hey, I don't claim to be the "nicest guy" either, but I have never played PC games on here.
I've been overly honest to a fault, I'm glad you finally decided to join me.
Because we're now getting to the reality.
And if so, that should mean she should come back to me?
And if that is the case, should I not take her back because she's only with me because she's desperate?
Wow! Thank you! Because you put this in the other thread, now I feel better!
Then I'm over analyzing a bunch of non-sense.
But maybe, just maybe, this is what makes me happy?
And maybe it's what makes some, select men happy as well?
I see women on the TV all-the-time, virtually never get turned on.
Then I see that Fruit-of-the-Loom commercial, and I pop a boner.
Maybe it's because I like what I like, I can explain what I like, and these sub-5% of "fatties" appreciate they can find a man who enjoys it too.
Men who differentiate what they like, aren't "desperate," just like what they like, and those women are rare, not common.
They said I didn't need to be "desperate," and I even humored them and went out with 2 cheerleaders after my first FFW girlfriend.
Guess what? I realized I liked what I liked, ran back to my FFW type, and never changed again.
Sooner rather than later, people not only accepted that, but I found a few of my fellow teammates liked what I did.
The "*****" of it all was broken, I had far more satisfying moments when I was intimate, and the rest is history.
You always talk about my "bragging," as if I'm trying to impress you or anyone.
That's the thing ...
I post what I feel, not worrying if it impresses or not, or offends or not.
Apparently you have an even deeper conflict with doing that, playing PC games and other non-sense.
Now it's your chance to vote and comment!
Or does "almost no one else" think like I do?
My original response is here:
http://board.freeones.com/showthread.php?p=1765229
And I will respond to McRocket's post from here:
http://board.freeones.com/showthread.php?p=1765546
No, I did not ask, you offered, and to tangent from my thread.Since you asked me to be honest, I'll be honest...
You did it in an attempt to hurt my feelings, and then gave some conflicting BS.
But that is besides the point ...
There different types of women, figures and what not.The only women that would fall for all this over worded bullshit are either
a) stupid women,
b) women with low self esteem or
c) a combination thereof.
You want to lump them all into the "fat" category? Fine.
Most doctors are thrown BMI out-the-window, and started focusing on proportion.
A "quick check" is how far the gut of a woman sticks out when it comes to health and activity.
A more complex check has to do with width versus height.
It's not bullshit.
Those with apple figures live the shortest, as the weight is distributed higher and puts straight on their figure.
Those with hourglass figures live the longest, as the weight is more well distributed into their womanly figure.
Those with straight shapes live the second shortest, as their fat does not distribute well into any womanly figure, and head towards their gut first.
Those with pear shapes also live shorter as their weight goes into their hips, but is not well distributed upwards either.
I don't go for straight or pear-shaped women at all, never have.
I don't go for most apple-shaped women, because their best can be large without any bust.
I go for hourglass women who have ample hips and bust, and apple with hourglass-tendency women who have both as well.
I loved Kerry Marie when she was thin (size 8 or so), and when she was full, but still slender (under a size 20).
Now she's gotten too "fat" (to use your word and not be PC) because her gut is protruding way too much, and she is way too unhealthy.
I dated a gymnist who used to get called "fat" because she was extremely wide (over a size 10), but she was more fit than any "thin" woman.
Some models like Kate Dillon cannot be anything but a size 10 or larger.
Yes, she is probably a little more than "ideal" at a size 14, but she was anorexic and almost ****** herself with her diet at size 6 to maintain that "the next Cindy Crawford" title outside of her teenage years.
I like women of proportion -- hell -- that Fruit-of-the-Loom commercial of fuller women with curves makes me drool!
Even my wife noticed that and I was so aroused by it that we were typically intimate after seeing it.
Yes, many women laugh at it, and that's fine.I have known a lot of very attractive women (as friends mostly. dated a few) and this crap you throw around would make them laugh.
I'm not doing it to win people over or impress people, I'm doing it so those "lesser appreciated" can appreciate themselves.
Understand that I don't like but less than 1% of women out there, and of those that are "fuller figured," only 5% catch my fancy.
It's those women who are wide, but slender or otherwise very proportional, and not 95%+ of full figured women.
It's rare that I like a BBW, and only those that are very proportional that I can't ignore.
Women such as Maria Moore or Samantha Anderson and only a few others.
Yes and no.The only reason this nonsense you spew forth gets you attention is because most people don't want these women.
Yes, most men don't want these women as they say.
But no, I don't go after over 95% of them because they don't match my preference for a womanly shape.
Heck, most of the women in the BBW thread I do not care for.
I like those in my FFW thread, and not all of them, but the hourglass or apple-hourglass that are womanly in my view.
They are the perfect women I love, and I know I'm not alone.
Understand it is nice for these women to hear how they are "different" from the "common fattie" they are lumped in with.
So even a woman of proportion, that cannot drop below a size 10, should be lumped into this category?Fat is unhealthy and it is unattractive. It is frowned upon by Western society big time - and it should be.
I'm will to agree that this applies to 95%+ of full figured women.
But it does not apply to the sub-5% of FFW I go for.
Yes, some can gain "too much weight," and I agree that has happened to Kerry Marie to the point of her being unhealthy.
But I'm sure some thought she was "fat" at her thinnest size 8, or "too soft" for their tastes.
Some will even lump her at her thinnest into the "fat" category, and not differentiate.
When they've been lumped into the same category as "fat" and not even considered, yes.And these fat women are so desperate for attention that when a guy - almost ANY guy, pays attention to them with that over dramatized gobble de gook you spew forth and are so proud of that obviously they are going to like it.
I still cannot believe the gymnist I dated was considered "fat" by some people.
So you see no need to differentiate between women of varying degrees of "fat"?You are telling them that they are not fat (which they are) and that you love it (which almost no one else does).
And "almost no else does", eh?
Nice to see you think so highly of them.Any moron with half a brain in his head could get the same rise out of them that you do - THEY ARE FAT, so THEY ARE DESPERATE.
Glad to see you're finally honest and not just someone who "holds back" for fear of what people think.
It also goes to prove many things of what I've said about you all along.
In fact, you constantly beat yourself up for thinking the way you do, and then criticize all of us the way we think.
Define "attractive"?Don't believe me? Try that crap on a together, attractive woman? If she doesn't laugh in your face, she will laugh as soon as you leave.
If you mean "not fat," then give us some metrics on what is "fat" and "not fat" besides Devyn Devine and my wife.
I freely admit that Devyn Devine is overweight, and she could drop about 2-4 sizes for health reasons.
But if you think her apple-hourglass frame could "shrink down" to something like, even looking at someone very curvy, Sandee Westgate or Crissy Moran, you're greatly mistaken.
Some women can't be that way, period, it's impossible, or Kate Dillon would be dead right now.
Nice, very nice, you're a "people person" when you're honest.Wooing a fat woman? Wooing them is about as difficult as wooing a hooker with a $100 bill.
Hey, I don't claim to be the "nicest guy" either, but I have never played PC games on here.
I've been overly honest to a fault, I'm glad you finally decided to join me.
Because we're now getting to the reality.
So what you're saying is that I have a desperate wife?Most of them are lonely and desperate for attention. And I have known many fat women. I dated a woman that was fat for most of her life. I have had several fat friends.
And if so, that should mean she should come back to me?
And if that is the case, should I not take her back because she's only with me because she's desperate?
Wow! Thank you! Because you put this in the other thread, now I feel better!
Then I look ridiculous.So do yourself a favour and stop with all this over analyzed nonsense. I guarantee you almost none of us are impressed. You just look ridiculous.
Then I'm over analyzing a bunch of non-sense.
But maybe, just maybe, this is what makes me happy?
And maybe it's what makes some, select men happy as well?
I see women on the TV all-the-time, virtually never get turned on.
Then I see that Fruit-of-the-Loom commercial, and I pop a boner.
Maybe it's because I like what I like, I can explain what I like, and these sub-5% of "fatties" appreciate they can find a man who enjoys it too.
Men who differentiate what they like, aren't "desperate," just like what they like, and those women are rare, not common.
Now you sound like my teammates in high school all over again.And quite frankly, it makes you sound desperate.
They said I didn't need to be "desperate," and I even humored them and went out with 2 cheerleaders after my first FFW girlfriend.
Guess what? I realized I liked what I liked, ran back to my FFW type, and never changed again.
Sooner rather than later, people not only accepted that, but I found a few of my fellow teammates liked what I did.
The "*****" of it all was broken, I had far more satisfying moments when I was intimate, and the rest is history.
"Bragging?" Get off it.Like they are the only women you can get - which is fine. But to go around bragging about it? You are bragging about charming women that most guys don't even want - why would we be impressed?
You always talk about my "bragging," as if I'm trying to impress you or anyone.
That's the thing ...
I post what I feel, not worrying if it impresses or not, or offends or not.
Apparently you have an even deeper conflict with doing that, playing PC games and other non-sense.
Glad to finally see it!There. You wanted honesty, there is honesty.
Now it's your chance to vote and comment!
Or does "almost no one else" think like I do?