The nerve.
Presidents that crammed the Bible and God down our throats
- Thread starter Jack Davenport
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The nerve.
Ahem...
lol @ POTUS
Even 200 plus years ago Presidents got it right.
lol @ POTUS
Even 200 plus years ago Presidents got it right.
"At the risk of appearing predictable, the Bible was and remains the biggest influence on my thinking. I was raised reading it, memorizing passages from it and being guided by it. I still find it a source of wisdom, comfort and encouragement."
-Hillary Clinton
Thank you
On December 6th 1865 the 13th amendment was ratified abolishing slavery in the United States.
That was damn near 150 years ago..
That kind of outdated thinking has no place in our modern society.
The nerve.
That was damn near 150 years ago..
That kind of outdated thinking has no place in our modern society.
The nerve.
Yes slavery was abolished and then whites continued to require blacks take a back seat to them in society. No voting, no driving, different hotels and parts of town and blacks were deemed by law to be only 3/4 as human as a white. That continued on until the 1970s legally and in many places that racism is still alive. Look at the hatred for Obama before he even took office.
It was called the 3/5 compromise Einstein.
And was nullified during reconstruction. Please continue to grace us with your vast constitutional knowledge.
And was nullified during reconstruction. Please continue to grace us with your vast constitutional knowledge.
yeah I knew it was something like that. Remember, I'm not as smart as you is. In the 1960s blacks were beaten and sprayed with fire hoses and up until the early 70s they were still being legally treated with prejudice. Baseball players for example..the black players had to stay in different hotels in the "black part of town"
I know for a fact that this isn't true. There are various factions of the Episcopal denomination and I happened to spend 3 years in a Christian private school that was founded by Baptists and one of my teachers was an Episcopalian whose husband was a rector. She and her husband believed in the strict interpretation of the Bible. There are several provinces ranging from liberal to fundamentalist protestant.
The ruling authority is the ECUSA and as the governing body have taken some liberal stances but is not indicative of all the beliefs of Episcopalians.
In fact, many churches have either broken from ECUSA or denounced them.
You are talking church of England, yes the Episcopals have the Anglicans but protestants are different. The angelicans are literal and don't follow the flock. But even they do not condemn gays as you on the right although they do, unlike the main branch, reject same-sex marriage. We even have an openly gay Bishop
I remember asking her why she taught at a Baptist school and she explained that although she was Episcopalian she was basically a Baptist only classier lol.
George Washington was more than a likely an Episcopalian from her wing of the church.
there is plenty of writings and historical facts that prove for the time Washington was very progressive in his thoughts and views towards his religion. but that being said I don't believe in stopping anybody from worshipping the way their religion told about me too and that's my issue with the Religious Right is there saying my church my way of worshipping is wrong that only they are correct
Well without getting into his interpretation, it is clear that if any candidate today said what Washington said that I quoted in my initial post, they would be ridiculed to no end by the left.
“We have abundant reason to rejoice, that, in this land, the light of truth and reason has triumphed over the power of bigotry and superstition, and that every person may here worship God according to the dictates of his own heart. In this enlightened age, & in this land of equal liberty, it is our boast, that a man’s religious tenets will not forfeit the protection of the laws, nor deprive him of the right of attaining & holding the highest offices that are known in the United States.” ~~ Letter to the members of The New Church in Baltimore, January 1793
“If I could conceive that the general government might ever be so administered as to render the liberty of conscience insecure, I beg you will be persuaded, that no one would be more zealous than myself to establish effectual barriers against the horrors of spiritual tyranny, and every species of religious persecution.”
~~ Letter to the United Baptist Chamber of Virginia, May 1789
“If I could conceive that the general government might ever be so administered as to render the liberty of conscience insecure, I beg you will be persuaded, that no one would be more zealous than myself to establish effectual barriers against the horrors of spiritual tyranny, and every species of religious persecution.”
~~ Letter to the United Baptist Chamber of Virginia, May 1789
Actually - not meaning to detract from your point - but for the sake of accuracy it was the Treaty of Tripoli that stated that - a treaty that was submitted to the senate by President John Adams, ratified unanimously by the senate, and signed by Adams.
He was talking about the founding principles. He was not talking about the very things he did when he professed his faith or his belief in God and the Bible, nor did he believe that a leader or politician had to refrain from voicing those beliefs. Which is clear because he did it all the time.
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