Mueller Investigation Ends, No Collusion Charges, No New Charges

[georges]

let's not forget this

 

[xfire]

Correction, stupid, "The Barr Report". Mueller's report hasn't been released. Dumb.

 

[Straight Shooter]

The prevailing take on Attorney General William Barr’s letter to Congress on the Mueller report is summed up in the New York Times: “The investigation . . . found no evidence that President Trump or any of his aides coordinated with the Russian government’s 2016 election interference.” But a careful reading of Barr’s letter suggests that that may be wrong.

In fact, Barr’s letter quotes Special Counsel Robert Mueller as stating that the investigation “did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.” Saying that the investigation did not establish that there was collusion is not the same thing as saying that the investigation established that there was no collusion. Two points are worth emphasizing.

First, as quoted by Barr, Mueller used the words “conspired” and “coordinated.” Unlike the colloquial term “colluded,” these terms have legal significance. “Coordination” with a foreign government would be a basis for a finding of criminal liability under the election laws, and “conspiracy” would be a criminal agreement to violate those laws. This language suggests that Mueller’s report viewed the conduct through the lens of a criminal investigative process—that is, whether the evidence met the Department of Justice standards for prosecution, including the ability to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that there was intent to violate the law.

This interpretation is further supported by Barr’s discussion of the obstruction allegations. Barr’s language dismissing those allegations is strikingly similar to that used by Mueller with respect to the Russia investigation: Barr said that he and Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein “have concluded that the evidence developed during the Special Counsel’s investigation is not sufficient to establish that the President committed an obstruction-of-justice offense,” echoing Mueller’s statement that the investigation “did not establish” a conspiracy. This conclusion must be read in coordination with Barr’s 2018 memo arguing that acts within the president’s constitutional authority over law enforcement, including firing the director of the FBI, cannot constitute obstruction of justice—at least if they do not “impair[] the integrity or availability of evidence.”

Barr’s letter to Congress makes clear that there was substantial evidence supporting the possibility that the president obstructed justice—enough that Mueller did not feel he could draw a conclusion—but that Barr nonetheless concluded that prosecution was not warranted. By using the same language that Mueller used with respect to “establishing” coordination with Russia, Barr’s letter suggests the possibility that, rather than “no evidence” of collusion, Mueller did find such evidence—but similarly did not conclude it warranted a criminal prosecution. Clearing up this ambiguity is yet another reason why the Mueller report should be released promptly.

https://www.lawfareblog.com/what-does-barr-letter-actually-say-about-collusion

I come away from this with more questions than answers. At least release the obstruction portion of the report. The portion dealing with collusion would have lots of information related to grand juries and classified information and so that would have to be kept secret. The obstruction portion would not have that rather alot of it involved voluntary interviews. Release the report you cowards!!

 

[georges]

https://www.lawfareblog.com/what-does-barr-letter-actually-say-about-collusion

I come away from this with more questions than answers. At least release the obstruction portion of the report. The portion dealing with collusion would have lots of information related to grand juries and classified information and so that would have to be kept secret. The obstruction portion would not have that rather alot of it involved voluntary interviews. Release the report you cowards!!

boohoo :crybaby: Trump to House Democrat investigators: You’re not getting any documents
https://www.westernjournal.com/herm...&ff_campaign=manualpost&ff_content=2019-03-26

Mueller’s report exonerates Trump even more completely than people are saying (and yes, on obstruction too)
https://www.westernjournal.com/herm...&ff_campaign=manualpost&ff_content=2019-03-26

 

[xfire]

Conservatives don't give a fuck what Trump is guilty of, they just hate Democrats.

 

[Luxman]

All the Legal Trouble in Trumpworld

https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/03/08/all-the-legal-trouble-in-trumpworld-scandals-trump/

 

[georges]

Conservatives don't give a fuck what Trump is guilty of, they just hate Democrats.

Conservatives hate leechoffs, socialists, obstructionnists, conspirationnists, Clinton and Obama devotees as well to put it mildly.

 

[xfire]

Conservatives hate leechoffs, socialists, obstructionnists, conspirationnists, Clinton and Obama devotees as well to put it mildly.

Conservatives hate. Full stop, :douchebag:

 

[zeeblofowl_1969]

Conservatives hate leechoffs, socialists, obstructionnists, conspirationnists, Clinton and Obama devotees as well to put it mildly.

Conservatives are control freak, religious zealots who want everyone to be just like them.
Stepford wives kind of society.

 

[Supafly]

All the Legal Trouble in Trumpworld

https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/03/08/all-the-legal-trouble-in-trumpworld-scandals-trump/

This deserve a repeat. Exonerated?

We're just getting warmed up.

 

[pool_hustler]

Conservatives hate....conspirationnists

And yet you elected The King Of The Birthers :rofl2:

You really can't make this stuff up, folks :rofl2:

 

[georges]

And yet you elected The King Of The Birthers :rofl2:

You really can't make this stuff up, folks :rofl2:

Talk about your Community organizer Obama and his muppets such as Al Sharpton and Louis Farrakhan. Aside losing an election with a swine in 2016 and moaning and bitching like a :crybaby:, democraps resort the same collusion case which wasted tax payers money , with the help of the leftist obama muppet media ass kissing all the usual leftists Obama muppet senators and congressmen as well as congresswomen tried to frame Trump on false fabricated charges, that says a lot about the honesty of democraps. :thefinger:

 

[georges]

This deserve a repeat. Exonerated?

We're just getting warmed up.

He will be again exonerated from the bs charges of the NewYork district

 

[georges]

Conservatives hate. Full stop, :douchebag:

Radical Democrats Socialists especially Obama devotees hate :yesyes::thefinger:

 

[Supafly]

He will be again exonerated from the bs charges of the NewYork district

I will not put you on my ignore list just because you are a moderator. Otherwise, in here, as you are deaf to all reason and rhyme, I will discard your posts as null and void.

You're a waste of time.

 

[Straight Shooter]

 

[meesterperfect]

Hi, Now that Act I of this show seems to have come to an end with a predictable outcome, can somebody tell me:
Who ordered this investigation?
And was there any probable cause to do so?
Who ordered it?

 

[xfire]

 

[Supafly]

Any former president with a fraction of moral standards left would step down. Any former GOP party could NEVER stand by a blatant russian collaborator.

Well, they are pretty much all comrades now, one way or another. Maybe a handful may step away from this.

 

[xfire]

I hate that the Mueller investigation appears to be over (appears, but not so fast, perhaps), not because I thought Mueller was gonna "get" Trump, but because of how much anxiety it gives Trump. I'm confident Trump will end up RICO'd and the entire Trump org will end up in prison for financial crimes.