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Judge blocks parts of Arizona immigration law

Uh-boy..here it comes...:facepalm: (Is it just me or does everyone get a kick out of using a freshly minted smiley :D ...thanks Petra:lovecoupl )

PHOENIX – A federal judge on Wednesday blocked the most controversial parts of Arizona's immigration law from taking effect, delivering a last-minute victory to opponents of the crackdown.

The overall law will still take effect Thursday, but without the provisions that angered opponents — including sections that required officers to check a person's immigration status while enforcing other laws.

The judge also put on hold parts of the law that required immigrants to carry their papers at all times, and made it illegal for undocumented workers to solicit employment in public places. In addition, the judge blocked officers from making warrantless arrests of suspected illegal immigrants.

"Requiring Arizona law enforcement officials and agencies to determine the immigration status of every person who is arrested burdens lawfully-present aliens because their liberty will be restricted while their status is checked," U.S. District Judge Susan Bolton ruled.

She ruled that the controversial sections should be put on hold until the courts resolve the issues. Other provisions of the law, many of them procedural and slight revisions to existing Arizona immigration statute, will go into effect at 12:01 a.m.
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100728/ap_on_re_us/us_arizona_immigration
 
I don't get how a legal citizen can have their liberties restricted when the police check their immigration status. They have to be committing a illegal act to get stopped in the first place. And when you get pulled over or even questioned by the police they always ask for you ID...IMO this is just an extention of that.
 
I don't get how a legal citizen can have their liberties restricted when the police check their immigration status. They have to be committing a illegal act to get stopped in the first place. And when you get pulled over or even questioned by the police they always ask for you ID...IMO this is just an extention of that.

Well ID doesn't prove citizenship. While it is routinely accepted it in most cases by law enforcement, they don't have to. There is allot of case law that is out there the AZ law goes against IMO....But here is one way...
http://www.azfamily.com/video/featured-videos/Man-says-he-was-racially-targeted-forced-to-provide-birth-certificate-91769419.html
 

Facetious

Moderated
What? Like a stinky gooey masturbatory device under the robe type of judge?


The stench from the bench is making me clench!
Me -> :mad:/ <- a mill end length of a 2 X 4 (aka - "tubafore")
 
"Among the provisions U.S. District Judge Susan Bolton put on hold are the 'reasonable suspicion' section that would allow police to arrest and detain suspected illegal immigrants without a warrant and a provision making it illegal for undocumented day laborers to solicit or perform work.

It still baffles me that anyone thought such ambiguity would be permitted. Brewer and co. have had all this time to clear up what the term "reasonable suspicion" actually means, and they have done nothing to do so.
 
"Among the provisions U.S. District Judge Susan Bolton put on hold are the 'reasonable suspicion' section that would allow police to arrest and detain suspected illegal immigrants without a warrant and a provision making it illegal for undocumented day laborers to solicit or perform work.

It still baffles me that anyone thought such ambiguity would be permitted. Brewer and co. have had all this time to clear up what the term "reasonable suspicion" actually means, and they have done nothing to do so.

That was the main point I tried to make in all the other threads about this. I mean, many standards in law leave room for interpretation but that one is so utterly ambiguous that it's extremely difficult to apply without violating some rights of US citizens.
 

StanScratch

My Penis Is Dancing!
There is quite a bit of concern amongst the Native American community that they will also be targeted with this law. I personally know of at least one who had to get papers to prove he was legal - even though his people have been here a hell of a lot longer than the relatives of those who made the law.
He had to do it because he had been told by multiple people (including law enforcement) that he would have to have papers proving his legal citizenship, or face jail time and fines. So, yeah, this was a reason in my eyes why this country's priorities have been severely displaced.
 
"Among the provisions U.S. District Judge Susan Bolton put on hold are the 'reasonable suspicion' section that would allow police to arrest and detain suspected illegal immigrants without a warrant and a provision making it illegal for undocumented day laborers to solicit or perform work.

It still baffles me that anyone thought such ambiguity would be permitted. Brewer and co. have had all this time to clear up what the term "reasonable suspicion" actually means, and they have done nothing to do so.
"I smell pot" is all it takes. Lies work for cops.
 

maildude

Postal Paranoiac
Damn! I am trying to get....in....I woulda made it, but...shit!...oh, fuck it. I give up. Where's my law degree?
 
I'm not in favor of this law because I dont believe that you can have a patchwork of state and local policies that would disrupt federal immigration policy. It's the federal government's job to set and enforce national immigration policy.
 

jod0565

Member, you member...
And here, Walmart was much easier to get around lately. Oh well...
 
I'm not an expert on this law, but I find it inherently problematic and contradictory to federal laws. Most of the things I've read have stated this will have a minimal effect on actually reducing illegal immigration, and that police time and money should be used elsewhere to deal with the follow on effects - since the state can''t really stop illegal immigration. This will probably go to the Supreme Court, and I think even a conservative court will side against it, if it contradicts federal laws... Brewer is really just grandstanding, and probably thinking about moving to national politics.

This is a massive failure of the federal government. Fixing immigration and border security are two sides of the same coin, one won't work without the other, and the federal government, needs to address both at the same time in the same bill. I'm for legal immigration (my parents came here legally) - I think it's hypocritical to be against it if you're an American, and generally immigration has positive long-term impact on countries' economies.
 
Another blow to states and citizen's rights, another score for the Federals, who can't do the job that caused this mess in the first place.

What a sham our National Socialist government has become...
 
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