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Jews, Arabs nearing population parity in Holy Land

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Considering the population growth of Arabs and without a two-state solution, how will Israel be able to remain a Jewish state and also be considered a democracy in the future?

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/jews-arabs-nearing-population-parity-holy-land-israeli-151324024.html

By Jeffrey Heller

JERUSALEM (Reuters) - The number of Jews and Arabs between the Mediterranean Sea and Jordan River is at or near parity, figures cited by Israeli officials show, raising questions whether Israel can remain a democracy if it keeps territory where Palestinians seek a state.

The population statistics were mentioned in an Israeli parliamentary statement on Monday summing up legislators' questioning of an official of Israel's military-run civil administration (COGAT) that coordinates government activities in the Israeli-occupied West Bank and in the Gaza Strip.

Demography is studied closely on both sides of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict because of its potential implications for both societies as they weigh possible solutions as Israel celebrates its 70th anniversary next month.

With over a "two-state solution" frozen since 2014, some argue that if Israel becomes a binational state through annexation of land seized 51 years ago, it could one day be forced to choose between remaining a democracy or securing a Jewish majority by denying Palestinians the vote.

"We estimate the (Palestinian) population in Judea and Samaria at between 2.5 million and 2.7 million," Colonel Uri Mendes, COGAT's deputy director, using Israel's term for the West Bank, told a session of the Knesset's Foreign Affairs and Defence Committee. He noted that a Palestinian census put the figure even higher, at 3 million.

Avi Dichter, the committee's chairman and a former head of Israel's Shin Bet security service, responded that with the addition of Gaza's 2 million Palestinians, that meant there was now a total of about five million Palestinians living in the two territories that fell to Israel in the 1967 Middle East war.

Taking the higher end of the Israeli figures cited and adding them to the 1.84 million Arabs living inside Israel, according to Israel's Central Bureau of Statistics (CBS), would bring the total number of Arabs in Israel and the Israeli-occupied territories to around 6.5 million.

This is around the same number of Jews living between the Jordan Valley and Mediterranean, according to the CBS.

Jewish settlements in occupied territory Palestinians seek for a state have also dimmed Palestinian hopes of a viable and contiguous country of their own with East Jerusalem as its capital.

Palestinians also fear their quest for statehood suffered another blow when U.S. President Donald Trump recognized Jerusalem as Israel's capital in December.

SETTLERS DISPUTE DATA

Israeli settlers immediately disputed the population figures, citing one study that put the number of Palestinians in the West Bank at 1.8 million.

"The slanted publication about Arab demography in Judea, Samaria and the Jordan Valley relies on data from the Palestinian statistics bureau which are not true or accurate. They (Palestinians) have an interest in inflating the numbers," settler spokesman Yigal Dilmoni said.

But Ahmed Tibi, an Arab legislator in the Israeli parliament, described the figures as accurate and "well known to us for a long time".

Without the creation of a Palestinian state, Tibi said, Israel will be headed toward a "one-state solution" embracing either "apartheid or an Arab-Palestinian prime minister".

Ofer Shelah, a committee member from the opposition centrist Yesh Atid party, said it is clear the Jewish majority between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean is "precarious".

"From a demographic perspective, if Israel does not part with the Palestinians then there is real danger to realizing the Zionist dream of a Jewish and democratic Israel," Shelah told Reuters.

Sergio DellaPergola, a demographer and professor emeritus at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, said one state taking in two nations was not viable.

"The answer is separation, the answer is manifestly separation. Two countries for two people, which of course has to be negotiated," said DellaPergola.

Underlying political dynamics, he said, are more important than exact population percentages.

(Additional reporting by Stephen Farrell, Maayan Lubell and Dan Williams; Editing by Mark Heinrich)
 
Israel remaining a jewish state was settled in 1948.

If we're talking about an artificially created "palestinian" homeland - it's called Jordan.
 
Arabs breed like rabbits. That’s why they are taking over Europe and why the soy dependent left in the U.S. want to bring as many here as they can.
 

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Israel remaining a jewish state was settled in 1948.

Arabs breed like rabbits.

Both true. If one side breeds like rabbits and the other like inbred West Virginia Hillbillies what will the population split of Israel look like in 2048? Is the two state solution in Israel's best interest? Without a separate state for the Palestinians and soon a Jewish minority how would Israel be able to be both democratic and a Jewish state?
 
Arabs breed like rabbits. That’s why they are taking over Europe and why the soy dependent left in the U.S. want to bring as many here as they can.

average american household size: 2.59
average arab american household size: 2.93

my god you're right! Just look at that vast discrepancy!
 

Little Red Wagon Repairman

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Little Red Wagon Repairman

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Is it better for Jews in Israel to give Palestinians their own state to become a smaller Israel but still maintain a Jewish majority?

If they don’t give the Palestinians their own state and Israel eventually has an Arab majority population then how would they be able to remain a democracy and also under Jewish control?
 
average american household size: 2.59
average arab american household size: 2.93

my god you're right! Just look at that vast discrepancy!

We were talking about Arabs in Europe and the Middle East not the United States. Additionally, the average American household size has been steadily decreasing while the Arab household is steadily increasing.

They have a ways to go but they are a patient people and before you know it, the top boy’s name for newborns can be Mohammed too that is if Mateo or Hector doesn’t beat them there first.
 
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