It's not "Flip Flop" Kudos, Mr. Obama . . You have to mean it though . . in English !

[Facetious]

To change positions on hot issues

CAPE CANAVERAL, Florida (CNN) -- Sen. Barack Obama responded Saturday to criticism that he has changed his position on opposing offshore oil drilling.


Obama said Friday that he would be willing to compromise on his position against offshore oil drilling if it were part of a more overarching strategy to lower energy costs.

"My interest is in making sure we've got the kind of comprehensive energy policy that can bring down gas prices," Obama told The Palm Beach Post early into a two-day swing through Florida.

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Kudos, Mr. Obama . . You have to mean it though . . in 6th grade English !

I have no problem with a politician changing his position on hot issues, so long as the switch was made as a result of further enlightenment . . outside the political realm, that is.
Only a whore of a politician would temporarily switch positions solely to get elected.(AKA "Flip Flop")

Thus far, Mr. Obama has demonstrated some flexibility on this issue for which I have to applaud him.

The part that might bother me is the idea that his stance has never swayed. (voter fear CYA (?))

(this is not necessarily a political endorsement)

 

[Friday on my mind]

Re: It's not "Flip Flop" Kudos, Mr. Obama . . You have to mean it though . . in Engli

As I mentioned recently my brother couple weeks ago got to introduce someone at an event who knows Obama very well and worked with him as community organizer.He said Obama was not in way any sort of hard line left winger and was really a middle of the road practical politician.Is he reacting to the polls and such here, almost assuredly so which is what any smart practical politician would do.And that won't end after the election,that was the guys point to my brother that the left would have to push him hard to do some of the things we would like done.Because Obama will be very hesistant if elected to do anything that night hurt his chances at re-election.
Expect fairly moderate governing in the style of a Bill Clinton.

 

[YMIHERE]

Re: It's not "Flip Flop" Kudos, Mr. Obama . . You have to mean it though . . in Engli

It is hardly a secret that when it comes to offshore drilling, Sen. John McCain was against the idea before he was for it. On Monday, the Arizona Republican told a crowd in Texas that he was abandoning his long-time support for a federal moratorium on drilling along the nation's coastlines in favor of allowing states to decide for themselves. :tongue:


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/18/mccains-offshore-drilling_n_107872.html

 

[Facetious]

Re: It's not "Flip Flop" Kudos, Mr. Obama . . You have to mean it though . . in Engli

^ Ah, ah, ah . . . that source is a no no :nono:


J/K I'm pullin' your chain :tongue:

And I must commend Fomm with his stand on nuclear energy as of late. I'd wager a bunch that ten years ago he was vehemently anti . . . . .

 

[86150]

Re: It's not "Flip Flop" Kudos, Mr. Obama . . You have to mean it though . . in Engli

The states should be able to decide for themselves, it is after all, a states rights issue.

I think a comprehensive plan would work very well, and the one thing that will help people immediately, will be to lift the ban. The speculators will not have THAT to prop up the high oil prices at that point, because it can change at any minute.

There is already synthetic OIL, Which I use in my vehicles. I have heard that there is a synthetic gas that will be on the market within a year-18 months. I HAVE also heard it will be super cheap to produce and extremely plentiful.

Hopefully this will turn out to be true.

That is a great step by Obama, and if he does win, hopefully the guy was right about him being more middle of the road, but he sure isn't campaigning that way.

I would like to see a viable synthetic fuel. Ethanol/Gasahol just is NOT the solution.

I'm not sure why a synthetic home heating oil can't be devised as well.

The worst part of the whole ethanol thing is that it has wreaked havoc on OUR food prices and supply as well as the hurt it has put on other country that use it a staple food.

 

[Facetious]

Re: It's not "Flip Flop" Kudos, Mr. Obama . . You have to mean it though . . in Engli

As I mentioned recently my brother couple weeks ago got to introduce someone at an event who knows Obama very well and worked with him as community organizer.

What is that ? Is it a loosely defined 501C3 ? Hell, a gangster could be defined as a community organizer. It all depends on what you wish to organize and how you intend to organize it. Organized crime . . maybe :dunno:
Community Organizer reminds me of "Waste Management" from "The Sopranos" ! Nope ! I don't like this connection.

He said Obama was not in way any sort of hard line left winger and was really a middle of the road practical politician.

His voting record in the Senate, or the Ill. State Leg., for that matter, doesn't support this. :2 cents:

Nevertheless, I commend him for what I consider as "progress" in the drilling of offshore resources. This has to be giving TR a stomach ache ! same for nancy polozi :tongue:

 

[georges]

Re: It's not "Flip Flop" Kudos, Mr. Obama . . You have to mean it though . . in Engli

Nancy Polozi is not the smartest woman.

 

[Friday on my mind]

Re: It's not "Flip Flop" Kudos, Mr. Obama . . You have to mean it though . . in Engli

^ Ah, ah, ah . . . that source is a no no :nono:


J/K I'm pullin' your chain :tongue:

And I must commend Fomm with his stand on nuclear energy as of late. I'd wager a bunch that ten years ago he was vehemently anti . . . . .

You would lose your money.Understood for a very long time that the modern world was built on energy and just about every form of it has its potentials dangers and downsides.Nuclear power has had no real negative side effects except for some anxiety about the waste while coal gas and oil,well you know what effects I think they are having.So on balance I thought nuclear has always looked like best choice over those.Nuclear really was suppose to be the future ,hate to think all it can do for us is destroy us.We could learn a couple things from France about nuclear power and about health care systems.

 

[dick van cock]

Re: It's not "Flip Flop" Kudos, Mr. Obama . . You have to mean it though . . in Engli

I reckon, icerfan has already subscribed to this thread. :1orglaugh

On a side note: I recently read a story about the US media's lenience on McCain's gaffes while Obama has to take stick for any piece of chicken shit.

Greetings from Czechoslovakia! :wave:

 

[Member2019]

Getting old ...

I reckon, icerfan has already subscribed to this thread. :1orglaugh

On a side note: I recently read a story about the US media's lenience on McCain's gaffes while Obama has to take stick for any piece of chicken shit.

Greetings from Czechoslovakia! :wave:

Huh?

What's happening to Obama now is what has already happened to McCain. McCain didn't have a long-running primary to win, so they started on him early. Now that they are past Obama's, they are on him now.

In reality, on this issue, gas prices are going to drive the decision. And it just goes back to what I said early on -- they aren't much different, those two.

 

[icerfan]

Re: It's not "Flip Flop" Kudos, Mr. Obama . . You have to mean it though . . in Engli

I reckon, icerfan has already subscribed to this thread. :1orglaugh

It's a good thing I dont have a subscription to every political thread on this board! :crash:

By the way, Obama just flip-flopped on tapping the Strategic Petroleum Reserve. Better yet, he did it in the space of four weeks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JklRAVIKjk on 7/7

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bcl-rHPbRWo today, on 8/4

I'm okay with shifting positions on energy right now, due to the ever changing situation. But tapping the SPR in a non-disaster situation is NOT one of them. :nono:

 

[Facetious]

Re: It's not "Flip Flop" Kudos, Mr. Obama . . You have to mean it though . . in Engli

But tapping the SPR in a non-disaster situation is NOT one of them. :nono:

Particularly at a time when the "reformed soviet union" claims to be heading back to Kooba.

 

[Bigoldowls]

Re: It's not "Flip Flop" Kudos, Mr. Obama . . You have to mean it though . . in Engli

There is a huge problem with politicians engaging in this type of activity.

 

[icerfan]

Re: It's not "Flip Flop" Kudos, Mr. Obama . . You have to mean it though . . in Engli

By the way, Obama just flip-flopped on tapping the Strategic Petroleum Reserve. Better yet, he did it in the space of four weeks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JklRAVIKjk on 7/7

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bcl-rHPbRWo today, on 8/4

In addition, on the morning of July 7, the price of a barrel of oil opened at $145.29. On the morning of August 4, it opened at $125.10. Oops! :crash: