Is There Anything You Believe That Someone Else Could Call You A Conspiracy Theorist About?

[Little Red Wagon Repairman]

I was having a discussion with a friend and he dismissed a guy as a "conspiracy theorist" without much explanation. I know him and also know there are several things he believes are true that other people would call him a "conspiracy theorist" about too. Is there anything you believe that someone else you know would consider you a "conspiracy theorist" about?

My family likes the 9/11 story nice, neat, tidy, and put to bed. If I offer any alternate discussion they call for the guys in the white coats with the nets to take me away. Just an example.

 

[tvstrip]

Does believing COVID-19 was created in a Wuhan lab count?

 

[Little Red Wagon Repairman]

Does believing COVID-19 was created in a Wuhan lab count?

Sure. To some people it may be. It all depends who is on the receiving end of the information.

 

[Mr. Daystar]

Oh yeah. We can start with this "COVID-19 was created in a Wuhan lab" , about the only thing I don't think was a conspiracy, was 9/11. I think they (our Government), knew something was coming, I just don't think they knew what, just that it would be major in size, But yeah, I believe there's fuckery afoot around every government building water cooler. You just can't trust these little weasels in power, and their minions are even worse, as they fuck with people while trying to climb the ladder and struggle for power.

 

[Supafly]

Oh yeah. We can start with this "COVID-19 was created in a Wuhan lab" , about the only thing I don't think was a conspiracy, was 9/11. I think they (our Government), knew something was coming, I just don't think they knew what, just that it would be major in size, But yeah, I believe there's fuckery afoot around every government building water cooler. You just can't trust these little weasels in power, and their minions are even worse, as they fuck with people while trying to climb the ladder and struggle for power.

Yes, I think so, too. At least two of the people involved studied or at least worked (In a Bebab store, of course) here in my city in northern Germany, which has a tradition of having a lot of students from all over the globe.

Reading about all sorts of attacks and similar activities, in most cases, at least one, more likely two or three knew about the persons individually, but for some reason did not care to share their info. I think in the 9/11 cases, the single ones were treated as small fish, and they were watched loosely, so the bigger fish would show up. Or for them to make a stupid mistake to get a hold on them so it will stick. Which they did not do.

That is the worst part of terrorism: It is a crime that can't be healed, so to speak, like theft or other violent crimes. After a massive body count, yes, you cam send them to prison, you can send them to Guantanamo, you can send them to the Gas Chamber, ...

That part does not repair nothing for the victims and their families.

So that is something I might be somebody a bit conspiracy about.

Because there are always career politicians and agency people that are cold enough to be okay to hold back info so things can escalate, in order for them to stand tall when the dust settles and push new legislation etc.

 

[Mr. Daystar]

That's because "the war on terrorism", is a fucking joke. It's an ideology, driving it. Generally in our case, Islam....so how the fuck do you fight a religion, that rewards death, and killing of non believers, when they don't care if they get killed? It's like the war on drugs. What a total load of shit that is. They let what they want, from where they want, to "accidentally get through, and bust the rest, to justify their budgets....which half the time is laundering for some black ops project, Americas would freak out over. (like area 51, etc.). You can't even tell who the combatants are, because no one wears a uniform, and women and children fight the wars too. For cash, or reputation, who knows? The worst part is, the rules aren't even! We fight by a strict code of "rules of engagement", lawyers pick the targets, we have ethics, and neither of the 2 examples I gave have anything more then a need for money, or to be seen as a martyr.

 

[Little Red Wagon Repairman]

Here's one for you...

The guy at the Rams game who beat the 49er fan into a coma and the ISIS guy in Syria that is now dead... Same person. How 'bout them apples?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/arrest-made-sofi-stadium-altercation-003100819.html

https://www.cbsnews.com/video/isis-leader-dies-during-us-special-forces-raid-in-syria/

 

[Johan]

I strongly believe religions were created to control people, that's why, in some countries, some civilisations, it is said that the monach was chosen by God, or even that he was an actual god (like ancient Egypt pharaohs who were litteraly considered as gods)

 

[Mr. Daystar]

I strongly believe religions were created to control people, that's why, in some countries, some civilisations, it is said that the monach was chosen by God, or even that he was an actual god (like ancient egypt pharaohs who were litteraly considered as gods)

Well of course they were mad to control people. The problem is HOW they do it, and what they expect of you, and how much they want you bugging the other guy with your beliefs. Religion is fine, it's just like a loaded gun, in the hands of a responsible level headed person, it's safe, put in the hands of a halfwit dumbfuck, you better run and find some cover. When Henry the VIII ruled England, he changed the rules to suit his own needs and desires by declaring himself "God on Earth", over the church. Who incidentally didn't want to bend to his whims. I think it had to do with pussy....he was a pussy hound.

 

[Little Red Wagon Repairman]

I strongly believe religions were created to control people, that's why, in some countries, some civilisations, it is said that the monach was chosen by God, or even that he was an actual god (like ancient egypt pharaohs who were litteraly considered as gods)

I think that conspiracy has passed the test of time so good it's now mainstream. As many things as you and me disagree on we are in total solidarity on this one.

The most honest religious people ever were L Ron Hubbard and Anton Levey but that's like being crowned The World's Tallest Midget. They admitted their motivation was money.

 

[gmase]

Does believing COVID-19 was created in a Wuhan lab count?

Sure. To some people it may be. It all depends who is on the receiving end of the information.

I wouldn't consider it a CT. We don't know the source of the coronavirus, it is a reasonable hypothesis.

As for religion, it's been debunked since Galileo. Darwin spiked the ball.

 

[Little Red Wagon Repairman]

Does believing COVID-19 was created in a Wuhan lab count?

Personally I would not put this in the Conspiracy Theory column but more Reasonable Theory as I have questions to aim in that direction but also not certain either. Wuhan sits on a 3 legged chair with a light shined in its face for sure. Your suspect also isn't known for their transparency.

 

[Johan]

Religion is fine, it's just like a loaded gun, in the hands of a responsible level headed person, it's safe, put in the hands of a halfwit dumbfuck, you better run and find some cover.

On that I disagree. Religion's not "fine". To me, no religion is "fine".

This is how I see religious people :

Getting brainwashed but happy about it

 

[gmase]

As long as they stay happy among themselves, I am good with them.

 

[Little Red Wagon Repairman]

I think sometimes religious people confuse God with their pastor more interested in being in good standing with the Church than following the teachings of Jesus. Jesus was a great guy and worth listening to whether he is God or not. God may be great but organized religion not so much.

 

[Mr. Daystar]

According to what I've been told, anyplace where 2 or more people congregate, and talk about God, is considered a church.

 

[deathmetaldude]

This also applies to SJWS, NPCS, so called "anti-facists",and the woke crowd,

On that I disagree. Religion's not "fine". To me, no religion is "fine".

This is how I see religious people :

Getting brainwashed but happy about it

 

[tvstrip]

https://www.ranker.com/list/the-presidential-book-of-secrets/genevieve-carlton

I sort of believe that a Presidential "Book of secrets" exists in some form, if anything for practical reasons. There would be some benefit for the ultimate decision maker in the US to have a chain of knowledge so there is some consistency in how sensitive info is handled.

 

[D-rock]

I've made it a point in my life to believe in things like the Scientific Method and the benefits of Occam's Razor so no I've never been accused of believing on conspiracy theories. I've made it a point to know what logical fallacies are and to do my best to purge them from myself. I grew in an environment where stupidity wasn't allowed and was punished. I'm a big fan of things like (gasp) actual preponderance of proof when it comes to people making assertions and the belief that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. When the vast majority or the world's experts on a subject strongly agree on something I believe them. Shocking I know. That goes even more so when it's a subject I'm not an expert in myself. I despise people that walk around as embodiments of the Dunning-Kruger effect, and I'm not so proud as to ignore my own ignorance in things I don't know about. I think "I don't know" is a perfectly valid answer when it's the truth, and if it something that's known and reasonable to find out I believe people should make an effort to do so with actual trained knowledgeable experts on a subject matter. I think that wilful ignorance is the worst kind of ignorance.

It's probably why I despise stupidity as much as I do today.

 

[Theopolis Q. Hossenffer]

I've made it a point in my life to believe in things like the Scientific Method and the benefits of Occam's Razor so no I've never been accused of believing on conspiracy theories. I've made it a point to know what logical fallacies are and to do my best to purge them from myself. I grew in an environment where stupidity wasn't allowed and was punished. I'm a big fan of things like (gasp) actual preponderance of proof when it comes to people making assertions and the belief that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. When the vast majority or the world's experts on a subject strongly agree on something I believe them. Shocking I know. That goes even more so when it's a subject I'm not an expert in myself. I despise people that walk around as embodiments of the Dunning-Kruger effect, and I'm not so proud as to ignore my own ignorance in things I don't know about. I think "I don't know" is a perfectly valid answer when it's the truth, and if it something that's known and reasonable to find out I believe people should make an effort to do so with actual trained knowledgeable experts on a subject matter. I think that wilful ignorance is the worst kind of ignorance.

It's probably why I despise stupidity as much as I do today.

You and I and some others here have a curse we carry. "The Curse of the Logical Mind".