Is The Italian Govt. Fundamentally Communistic ?

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I've heard from two unrelated, typically reliable sources, over the last year, that the current Italian govt. is fundamentally a communistic ruling governance and the majority population elected them knowing what they'd get.

One of these claims was made by a recent Italian immigrant who is now a legal U.S. citizen, FWIW.

Fill me in :confused:
 

dick van cock

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:1orglaugh

I reckon BNF can answer this more concisely... but:

The ruling coalition encompasses every political faction from former Christian Democrats to post-Communists. PM prodi is a liberal (European terminology) economy professor.

There was a post-Communist named Massimo d'Alema in the late 90ies who served as PM. But unfortunately, I'm still waiting for a proletarian dictatorship under the Mediterranean sun. :D

Italians voted the Prodi team in because they were fed up with Berlusconi.

Every Norwegian government in the last 70 years has been more "communist" than the current Italian administration.
 

member006

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I have a hard enough time dealing with famiglia. Since the majority (not all) of us are American born Italians now, shamefully I know nothing of the politics of the old country. I don't speak Italian either, but when my Great Aunts speak, you KNOW what they're saying, trust me. ;)

LL
 
i really dont think so, but they do rotate their government often :p
 
Whats the difference between 'communist' and 'communistic'?


IMO the difference meant here is that he is not saying that Italy is a full blown communist state in the mold of the USSR or China or Cuba but that it has adopted what the poster feels are some of the traits he associates with communism.A more apt description might be socialist.
 

BNF

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IMO the difference meant here is that he is not saying that Italy is a full blown communist state in the mold of the USSR or China or Cuba but that it has adopted what the poster feels are some of the traits he associates with communism.A more apt description might be socialist.

That's pretty accurate.

Communism is as more of a marketing tool and it is a misnomer. They do not want to end private ownership or anything remotely similar. They are left leaning, clearly, and are as unorganized as their right side counterparts. If you looked at the factions(that do exist) in the US Democratic party, and split that party up into 3 or 4 groups, ditto with the Republicans, you would have a multiparty system more similar to Europe.

Italians share with Americans a deep mis- and distrust of government. I would not say that it is hated, like many Americans seen to harbor, but it is looked upon as corrupt and inefficient.

I think it is worth remembering that Germany and Italy both have very strong leftist parties by design. Fascism had real meaning here and the governments formed after the war were skewed to ensure a strong left to balance the (perhaps instinctive) right leanings of the populace.

I'd also add, that in direct opposition to the American perspective, it is immensely un-Italian to die for someone else's cause. IMO There is far too much concern about competing with friends, neighbors and colleagues to worry about what is happening even in the next town.
 
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They can make you change the name of the child if they think that it is rediculous and may cause the child harm in later life. Which might be a good idea for the US and UK because of the stupid names some celebs name there children.
 
Aside -

Is it me or has it only been recently where I hear The dems refer to themselves as " The Democratic Party", when they'd formerly refer to themselves as just "Democrats".

No that was totally the pubs who used the phrase "the democrate party" apparently thinking it sounded bad or at least not as good as democratic which does have the dual definition of being the name of their party as well as being defined as a "system of govt" where the people have the vote and power.Glad to help you out on that!:thumbsup:
 
Communism has never really helped people, see how many millions of deaths it made during WWII and fater WWII in goulags as well as during Maoism in China. Also, see in how miserable conditions people lived under communism, they never knew what was quality nor what was a real income.
 

L3ggy

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Why do most people think that Communism is evil?
 

Torre82

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Why do most people think that Communism is evil?

Because of American propoganda and ties to soviet Russia during the cold war.

Communism isnt such a bad idea, it was just never executed properly RIGHT from the start in Russia. Implementing government is a messy process that never seems to work.
 

Torre82

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That statement is still going 'round ? I recall that one from more than a decade ago in college. :1orglaugh

Well the core ideas arent bad at all, it's one version of a utopian society that.. well hell, I dont need to explain to you what everyone should already know. But we'll never know quite how nice of a system it is 'cuz it didnt work out and capitalism is too prevalent in modern society. :shrug: So yeah. Not to say there isnt plenty of decent lecturing on the subjects available online. Communists make better listening than any democrats I've heard pretty much the last decade.
 
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