Is "Liberal" The N-Word Of The Left???

[Little Red Wagon Repairman]

I live in Southern California where many liberals, sorry, progressives live. If you were to add up the sum of my political parts, I would lean to the right and be considered conservative. I have many friends on the left that I like very much. But, when I refer to them as liberals, they correct me and tell me they are progressives. Whatever. There are some who don't mind being called liberals but those are in the minority. Why do many on the left have a problem with being called liberal nowadays?

 

[Facetious]

I live in Southern California where many liberals, sorry, progressives live. If you were to add up the sum of my political parts, I would lean to the right and be considered conservative. I have many friends on the left that I like very much. But, when I refer to them as liberals, they correct me and tell me they are progressives. Whatever. There are some who don't mind being called liberals but those are in the minority. Why do many on the left have a problem with being called liberal nowadays?

Because by definition they're illiberal ! They want government intrusion into everybody's life
because instead of learning factual history in school, they were indoctrinated by a Far left leaning education bureaucracy (Thank You Jimmy Carter) by the name of "the united states department of education" and the teachers union. In their mind the only reason why communism had failed is because it wasn't originally implemented properly.

You see, todays "progressives" are much more enlightened than before


Another thing - JFK would be a far right winger if he were alive today.

 

[Hot Mega]

I live in Southern California where many liberals, sorry, progressives live. If you were to add up the sum of my political parts, I would lean to the right and be considered conservative. I have many friends on the left that I like very much. But, when I refer to them as liberals, they correct me and tell me they are progressives. Whatever. There are some who don't mind being called liberals but those are in the minority. Why do many on the left have a problem with being called liberal nowadays?

I'm glad they do correct you. There is a difference between a Liberal and a Progressive.

Libertarian liberalism is what this country was founded on. Liberals actually believe in the right to keep and bear arms, minimal government intervention and the right to self determination as long as you actions don't directly or proximately infringe on the rights of others.

 

[Little Red Wagon Repairman]

Liberals actually believe in the right to keep and bear arms, minimal government intervention and the right to self determination as long as you actions don't directly or proximately infringe on the rights of others.

I believe in all of that too and I'm Conservative. So Progressives believe in none of that?

 

[Facetious]

So called "progressives" can change their policies on a whim and when they do you can bet it's at the expense of majority taxpayer mobility, always is !

I have always said, for those who don't want to accept personal responsibility or accountability in their daily lives, by all means, there should be a program to take care of such individuals, I have no problem with that whatsoever.
OTOH, for the government to use the judiciary and the sadly lesser common legislative process of means to create an artificial predominant underclass majority (ACORN OBAMA frauds) that's sure to elect for themselves continued and additional freebies at the cost of the taxpayer is wrong !

Both political parties, today more than ever, seem hell bent on further destroying the middle class. It's a pissing contest to capture the near future predominant pee- on class of peoples' vote(s).

"Our" government plays us like a fiddle ! :flame:

It's sad that such a large number of gullible dopes suck it all up like they do,
endearing government aid at every stand.


woosies

 

[Hot Mega]

I believe in all of that too and I'm Conservative. So Progressives believe in none of that?

I would say you're a liberal an not conservative. So-called conservatives don't believe in the right to self-determination. Some think they do until you get to some of the policies they support..then not so much.

 

[CunningStunts]

Your friends are correct... technically, what Americans call "conservatives" are really "classical liberals" which were born from the Enlightenment. Modern "liberals" can call themselves whatever they wish, but they are most certainly NOT liberal, they are left wing nationalist/socialists, who seek to take money and power from individuals because they believe the State knows best how to run our lives. Ironic, no?

 

[Hot Mega]

Your friends are correct... technically, what Americans call "conservatives" are really "classical liberals" which were born from the Enlightenment. Modern "liberals" can call themselves whatever they wish, but they are most certainly NOT liberal, they are left wing nationalist/socialists, who seek to take money and power from individuals because they believe the State knows best how to run our lives. Ironic, no?

American "conservatives" aren't classical Liberals. They believe as a matter of policy encroachments on individual freedoms just like progressives do...they just have their own set of beliefs they believe should be instilled in larger society.

 

[calpoon]

who cares? Maybe people should spend more time doing something that actually fucking matters.

or not.

but either way, they should do something else besides debating meaningless politcal buzzwords.

 

[boobfan]

I would say you're a liberal an not conservative. So-called conservatives don't believe in the right to self-determination. Some think they do until you get to some of the policies they support..then not so much.

No, because Self-determination is at the very core of conservatism if you do not believe in the right to improve yourself and succeed and not just sit back and be a ward of the state then you are not a conservative.
Liberals do not believe in the 2nd amendment in any of it interpretations and they are NOT Libertarians they are overwhelmingly socialists and communists in their core beliefs.
The very core of liberalism is that the state supports the people in all aspects and with that at the core they do not feel that people have any rights to own or poses firearms because if people have firearms they have the ability to protect themselves.
They have been educated to believe that capitalism is evil and must be stopped at pretty much all costs.
This carteresque indoctrination into socialism/communism has ingrained in these people that the nations wealth must be redistributed evenly across the population whether they deserve or have earned it or not.

Your friends are correct... technically, what Americans call "conservatives" are really "classical liberals" which were born from the Enlightenment. Modern "liberals" can call themselves whatever they wish, but they are most certainly NOT liberal, they are left wing nationalist/socialists, who seek to take money and power from individuals because they believe the State knows best how to run our lives. Ironic, no?

Conservatives are not Liberals there is nothing that can connect the two words they are like oil and water they do not mix.
A progressive is merely a more aggressive liberal like a socialist or a communist.

 

[Little Red Wagon Repairman]

Why is the Fairness/Censorship Doctrine in more favor of liberal politicians than conservatives? What's regulated for talk radio and Fox News would also regulate MSNBC and the New York Times. Is this in conflict with the 1st Amendment since the gov't is regulating free speech?

 

[Evil]

No, because when people call me liberal I don't weigh the pleasure of killing them vs jail time.

 

[bustybbwlover]

i'm a liberal philosophical anarchist what that means is i wish there was no need for government and would prefer there was no government but i understand that we humans just can't act like humans without someone telling us what to do, it's a concept versus application issue

 

[boobfan]

Why is the Fairness/Censorship Doctrine in more favor of liberal politicians than conservatives? What's regulated for talk radio and Fox News would also regulate MSNBC and the New York Times. Is this in conflict with the 1st Amendment since the gov't is regulating free speech?

Because it restricts/removes actual reporting from the news.
Not that the media actually do any real reporting all they do is polish up what the Obama presscore repeat.
What amazes me is that people actually think of Fox News as conservative, when you look at where most of the money they get in advertising an entirely different picture is painted. Fourty percent of the advertising dollars they get are from DNC funded networks most of which is from CBS. Twenty percent of thier remaining revenue comes from companies and businesses that are DNC supporters. The first rule of broadcasting is you dont bite the hand that feeds you and right now the Meat they get is coming from the hands of the DNC who are anything but conservative.

 

[Little Red Wagon Repairman]

i'm a liberal philosophical anarchist what that means is i wish there was no need for government and would prefer there was no government but i understand that we humans just can't act like humans without someone telling us what to do, it's a concept versus application issue

Hold on. Aren't liberals for larger gov't and anarchists for no gov't? How does that add up. Why are people anarchists anyway? At least you guys have a cool logo.

 

[Little Red Wagon Repairman]

Because it restricts/removes actual reporting from the news.
Not that the media actually do any real reporting all they do is polish up what the Obama presscore repeat.
What amazes me is that people actually think of Fox News as conservative, when you look at where most of the money they get in advertising an entirely different picture is painted. Fourty percent of the advertising dollars they get are from DNC funded networks most of which is from CBS. Twenty percent of thier remaining revenue comes from companies and businesses that are DNC supporters. The first rule of broadcasting is you dont bite the hand that feeds you and right now the Meat they get is coming from the hands of the DNC who are anything but conservative.

The Fox News opinion shows(Beck, O'Reilly, Hannity) are fairly conservative. Greta is mainly a legal show with some news and is fairly down the middle. Geraldo seems fairly liberal but is pretty objective. I find the straight news(Shepherd Smith, Bret Beir) to be impartial. The weird thing is that the morning latte show, Fox & Friends, is totally one-sided for Conservatives.

I guess if the Fairness Doctrine went through, Obama's first term could be named Barack and Joe's Enchanting Adventure.

 

[bustybbwlover]

Hold on. Aren't liberals for larger gov't and anarchists for no gov't? How does that add up. Why are people anarchists anyway? At least you guys have a cool logo.

there's the crazy far far right-wing racist anarchists who arm themselves and train for the day the government comes for them and the we should be able to act like human without being told to anarchists
so i suppose you could break it down to right-wing or left-wing anarchists
liberal thought or conservative thought

 

[calpoon]

Conservatives are not Liberals there is nothing that can connect the two words they are like oil and water they do not mix.
A progressive is merely a more aggressive liberal like a socialist or a communist.

that's the funniest post I've read all day. You should be a comedian. Your impersonation of a someone who was lobotomized and then reprogrammed in equal parts by Charlton Heston and Joe McCarthy was dead-on.

 

[Little Red Wagon Repairman]

there's the crazy far far right-wing racist anarchists who arm themselves and train for the day the government comes for them and the we should be able to act like human without being told to anarchists
so i suppose you could break it down to right-wing or left-wing anarchists
liberal thought or conservative thought

Then maybe I'm an anarchist too because I got a lotta lotta bullets. Not sure how many but it's stacked 4 feet high in the closet. I don't hate the gov't but I don't trust that they can protect me if the natives become restless again.

 

[boobfan]

that's the funniest post I've read all day. You should be a comedian. Your impersonation of a someone who was lobotomized and then reprogrammed in equal parts by Charlton Heston and Joe McCarthy was dead-on.

Perfect example of Jimmy Carters socialist indoctrination called "The United States Department of Education". The products of that system will probably call it edumication.
If ISD's did not exist our entire educational system might have collapsed 20 years ago. The sad thing is our ISD's are being infected by socialists and thier agendas now because it is getting harder and harder to find people that are willing to work for a teachers salary in any type of public system who have had any type of actual education that did not focus on socialism, art, music, and basket weaving. The burden on parents to find out what thier children are being taught in school is being increased at an alarming level and when they do finally find out socialist propaganda has been entered into a curiculium it is getting harder and harder to get it out.
I have turned down several teaching jobs in the past simply because of the fear of having to face the sheer stupidity that is being unleashed upon our colleges from public educational systems.
I had an engineering intern on a project that I was on 2 years ago who was suppose to be an A average 4th year student at UT, but he did not even know what in the hell a Reynolds Number was!