Is Iran A Threat To The American Homeland?

[Little Red Wagon Repairman]

They seem to be a threat to Israel but I'm not sure about how they threaten us here. Even if they were about to make a nuke how would they lob it at us?

 

[Mayhem]

They can't hit us here. But if they launched a nuke, it would be at Israel. And then we would get involved. That's how they are a threat.

And why does this have to be explained to you?

 

[Little Red Wagon Repairman]

They can't hit us here. But if they launched a nuke, it would be at Israel. And then we would get involved. That's how they are a threat.

And why does this have to be explained to you?

Didn't have to be explained. I wanted to see if people here thought they were a threat to us here.

If some here are so concerned about the Israelis maybe we should all be honest about things so we could work toward de-nuking the entire region. Iran and Israel are obviously not friends. If Israel has nuclear weapons it makes sense that Iran would want them as well. Even if we are Israel's daddy isn't it about time to kick them out of the house and tell them to get a job?

The only thing I want from the Middle East is oil. Enough with the waving of the Holy Books. If they want to kill each other, let them. Let's get back to business here and make some money.

 

[Mayhem]

Didn't have to be explained. I wanted to see if people here thought they were a threat to us here.

If some here are so concerned about the Israelis maybe we should all be honest about things so we could work toward de-nuking the entire region. Iran and Israel are obviously not friends. If Israel has nuclear weapons it makes sense that Iran would want them as well. Even if we are Israel's daddy isn't it about time to kick them out of the house and tell them to get a job?

The only thing I want from the Middle East is oil. Enough with the waving of the Holy Books. If they want to kill each other, let them. Let's get back to business here and make some money.

A lot of what you're saying is contradictory. If Iran and Israel (or Israel and anyone else) get into a full scale war, Suez gets shut down or hampered, and either way the markets get thrown into turmoil. Watch gas prices shoot up to $8 then.

In terms of Israel's or Iran's nuclear programs...they are sovereign countries. There's things we can and can't do.

In terms of disassociating ourselves from Israel...good luck with that. My side of the aisle is accused of wanting to do just that, and I don't really think we do. But that doesn't stop others from shouting at us that we do. But plenty of America considers Israel to be a closer ally than England. You're not going to change that between now and tomorrow morning. But we do keep close ties with Israel because the alternative is that the global economy would have a meltdown if a full blown Holy War broke out in that region. But trust me, as I type this I do realize that what goes on there now in no way classifies as peace.

 

[Little Red Wagon Repairman]

A lot of what you're saying is contradictory. If Iran and Israel (or Israel and anyone else) get into a full scale war, Suez gets shut down or hampered, and either way the markets get thrown into turmoil. Watch gas prices shoot up to $8 then.

In terms of Israel's or Iran's nuclear programs...they are sovereign countries. There's things we can and can't do.

In terms of disassociating ourselves from Israel...good luck with that. My side of the aisle is accused of wanting to do just that, and I don't really think we do. But that doesn't stop others from shouting at us that we do. But plenty of America considers Israel to be a closer ally than England. You're not going to change that between now and tomorrow morning. But we do keep close ties with Israel because the alternative is that the global economy would have a meltdown if a full blown Holy War broke out in that region. But trust me, as I type this I do realize that what goes on there now in no way classifies as peace.

Good post. Good point. The thought of $8 per gallon gas makes my head hurt.

I'm more from the right and I'm tired of being played for a sucker by the Israelis. Wouldn't it still be better and more effective if the negotiations with Iran had more transparency about the Israelis? Shouldn't the goal still be to de-nuke the Middle East?

 

[Will E Worm]

No.

 

[Mayhem]

Good post. Good point. The thought of $8 per gallon gas makes my head hurt.

I'm more from the right and I'm tired of being played for a sucker by the Israelis. Wouldn't it still be better and more effective if the negotiations with Iran had more transparency about the Israelis? Shouldn't the goal still be to be to de-nuke the Middle East?

Well...yeah. But Israel refuses to even talk about, let alone give up whatever kind of arsenal they have. And it's not like they don't have cause to be paranoid.

And we're talking to Iran. I am seriously just trying to talk to you about a good topic and not get confrontational to whoever reads this, but there are people in our government who want to use hardline tactics to keep Iran nuclear-free, rather than calmly talk them down. And those people are from your side of the aisle. It's my opinion that all these negotiations in this region are an extremely delicate game of pick-up stix. Move one stick the wrong way and a number of other sticks move the wrong way. But members of Congress keep introducing Bills that say, "Either Iran toes our line, or we treat them like a stepchild." Yeah, like that's going to have a happy ending.

negotiations with Iran had more transparency about the Israelis?

Ok, now we're pissing of the Israelis by being transparent with Iran, and the pick-up stix collapse in that direction.

It's all fucked. Nuclear weapons suck.

 

[Little Red Wagon Repairman]

Well...yeah. But Israel refuses to even talk about, let alone give up whatever kind of arsenal they have. And it's not like they don't have cause to be paranoid.

And we're talking to Iran. I am seriously just trying to talk to you about a good topic and not get confrontational to whoever reads this, but there are people in our government who want to use hardline tactics to keep Iran nuclear-free, rather than calmly talk them down. And those people are from your side of the aisle. It's my opinion that all these negotiations in this region are an extremely delicate game of pick-up stix. Move one stick the wrong way and a number of other sticks move the wrong way. But members of Congress keep introducing Bills that say, "Either Iran toes our line, or we treat them like a stepchild." Yeah, like that's going to have a happy ending.



Ok, now we're pissing of the Israelis by being transparent with Iran, and the pick-up stix collapse in that direction.

It's all fucked. Nuclear weapons suck.

More good points, Mayhem. I guess we can both agree we're frustrated. Thanks for the gentlemanly exchange.

 

[MustBeGood]

A threat to Israel.

Iran has no navy. If they tried to build up one we would now have a Persian Gulf fleet based out of Dubai.

 

[laidoff2]

Nope

 

[Johan]

Iran is a bully to Israel, nothing more.
They won't throw a nuke at Israel 'cause they know Israel and the US would respond by litteraly wiping out Teheran. And Israel may destroy the nuke before it hit the ground.


Iran is the new Saddam : a red flag waved by war-mongering politicians to the american people to scare them.

 

[Supafly]

The threat to the USA mainly lies in the cost of both lives and money and energy wasted on a war that could not be won.

 

[GodsEmbryo]

Nope

 

[Little Red Wagon Repairman]

Nope

Thanks for that. Funny dude. Reminds me of my Persian neighbors in America. Nice people just trying to steer me in the proper direction.

"No! Don't eat over there! This place much better!"

"Your coffee is no good! You must try mine and go to this store!"

"No, no, no buddy! You must buy iPhone at Apple store only!"

"This has got to be best gun! It is gold-plated!"

"London was great but all those Arabs, buddy!"

 

[Supafly]

As crazy and evil Saddam was, he did not wreck his country on burning gazillions on several world invasion forces. He kept it to his own country.

 

[Mayhem]

As crazy and evil Saddam was, he did not wreck his country on burning gazillions on several world invasion forces. He kept it to his own country.

I think the people of Iran and Kuwait might beg to differ.

 

[Supafly]

I think the people of Iran and Kuwait might beg to differ.

I think that the scale is rather local. Did Saddam go after ruling the globe? No, that was the USA. And they keep on paying the price.

 

[Mayhem]

I think that the scale is rather local. Did Saddam go after ruling the globe? No, that was the USA. And they keep on paying the price.

Dude, like oh so many others on this board, why can't you just admit you were wrong and/or posted without thinking? The Iran-Iraq War was an invasion that burned up gazilions. The Kuwait Invasion was an invasion that burned up gazillions. The fact that they are next door is meaningless to the lives and resources wasted to no purpose. "Burning gazillions" - your words. "Invasion forces" - your words. "I was wrong and I posted without thinking" - what should be your words.

No one can deny that the US invasion of Afghanistan was justified. We just handled it badly from there. And I will agree with you and anyone that the invasion of Iraq was NOT justified, as we found out when it was too late. And I freely admit that I was one of the suckers that bought into the hype and supported it when it happened. ...... See? There, I did it. I admitted to an error on my part.


Late Edit:

wreck his country

Need I go on with this little gem?

 

[MustBeGood]

I think that the scale is rather local. Did Saddam go after ruling the globe? No, that was the USA. And they keep on paying the price.

Dude, like oh so many others on this board, why can't you just admit you were wrong and/or posted without thinking? The Iran-Iraq War was an invasion that burned up gazilions. The Kuwait Invasion was an invasion that burned up gazillions. The fact that they are next door is meaningless to the lives and resources wasted to no purpose. "Burning gazillions" - your words. "Invasion forces" - your words. "I was wrong and I posted without thinking" - what should be your words.

No one can deny that the US invasion of Afghanistan was justified. We just handled it badly from there. And I will agree with you and anyone that the invasion of Iraq was NOT justified, as we found out when it was too late. And I freely admit that I was one of the suckers that bought into the hype and supported it when it happened. ...... See? There, I did it. I admitted to an error on my part.


Late Edit:


Need I go on with this little gem?

The problem with Iraq was after Saddam fell there was nothing in place in locals to take charge.

The disbanding of the Iraqi army of 300K (They weren't the main force in 03 doing the fighting, it was the Faydayeen taking pop shots in the 3 weeks to Baghdad) was the most stupid mistake.

IMO the vast majority of them were not loyal to Saddam,

 

[Mr. Daystar]

I disagree in the sense that, they can always try and use individuals to commit acts of terror. I realize that is no where near the scale of a nuke being launched, but they could in theory hurt or kill some people, and cause panic and destruction...although I would hope it's a much harder task to accomplish today, then it was several years ago. As far as Israel goes, it's my opinion we do what we do for them, as a way of trying to keep them from going full blown ape shit, and starting the war. While I agree they have every reason to be worried about their neighbors, they are just as much to blame for some of the problems over there. Sometimes I wonder if we didn't cause all of this shit ourselves, when we went in after world war 2, and divided everything up.