Immigrants with HIV/AIDS to be allowed into US...

[CunningStunts]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31910664/ns/health-aids/

How in the wide world of sports does this make sense in the middle of a debate about soaring health costs in the US and trying to help folks already here without insurance?:dunno:

 

[Jeep!]

I didn't even know that this ban was ever in place, but I'm glad it's lifted. Discriminating against someone on the grounds of them having an illness is disgusting.

 

[CunningStunts]

I didn't even know that this ban was ever in place, but I'm glad it's lifted. Discriminating against someone on the grounds of them having an illness is disgusting.

How is protecting the US public a bad thing? Should be also allow people with TB, Bird Flu, leprosy, and the plague to come on in?

 

[mrtrebus]

How is protecting the US public a bad thing? Should be also allow people with TB, Bird Flu, leprosy, and the plague to come on in?

Into the US? Yes, most definitely!

 

[Jeep!]

No, ship them out to a little island to die.
AIDS isn't transferred like the cold, and anyone who is known to have AIDS (therefore anyone who would have been barred from travel) is, normally, going to be fucking careful about it. You wouldn't deport someone for contracting it, why forbid people entry based on having it? AIDS sufferers aren't some malicious army bent on destroying your country, they're people.

 

[CunningStunts]

No, ship them out to a little island to die.
AIDS isn't transferred like the cold, and anyone who is known to have AIDS (therefore anyone who would have been barred from travel) is, normally, going to be fucking careful about it. You wouldn't deport someone for contracting it, why forbid people entry based on having it? AIDS sufferers aren't some malicious army bent on destroying your country, they're people.

You're trying to make this like a Nazi death camp scenario... that's not what I'm saying at all... these are non-US citizens with a deadly disease. Why let them live in the US, especially with the current state of our broke health care system?

 

[ChefChiTown]

No, ship them out to a little island to die.
AIDS isn't transferred like the cold, and anyone who is known to have AIDS (therefore anyone who would have been barred from travel) is, normally, going to be fucking careful about it. You wouldn't deport someone for contracting it, why forbid people entry based on having it? AIDS sufferers aren't some malicious army bent on destroying your country, they're people.

How can you say that people with AIDS would be careful when most people who have AIDS aren't even aware that they have AIDS in the first place? It's not like people who contract HIV wake up one morning and go "UH OHS!!! I HAS AIDS!!!" and then live the rest of their life in a sea of a caution. Most people don't know they have AIDS until faaaaar after they have contracted it.

If people were responsible and careful about illnesses, whether they have one themselves or not, our country wouldn't be full of NEW cases each and every year of people who have recently contracted an STD and/or AIDS. It's pure stupidity, recklessness and carelessness that leads to so many cases of sexually transmitted diseases - key word: TRANSMITTED - which means that somebody had to be careless in the first place in order to pass their disease along to someone else.

AIDS carriers, careful? I think not.

 

[Jeep!]

How can you say that people with AIDS would be careful when most people who have AIDS aren't even aware that they have AIDS in the first place? It's not like people who contract HIV wake up one morning and go "UH OHS!!! I HAS AIDS!!!" and then live the rest of their life in a sea of a caution. Most people don't know they have AIDS until faaaaar after they have contracted it.

If people were responsible and careful about illnesses, whether they have one themselves or not, our country wouldn't be full of NEW cases each and every year of people who have recently contracted an STD and/or AIDS. It's pure stupidity, recklessness and carelessness that leads to so many cases of sexually transmitted diseases - key word: TRANSMITTED - which means that somebody had to be careless in the first place in order to pass their disease along to someone else.

AIDS carriers, careful? I think not.

How, then, did the ban actually work for those people who no one knew had AIDS? Think about it.
I've never even heard stories of people maliciously spreading AIDS deliberately, so unless the US is a nightmare planet, I'm going to make the assumption that most cases are contracted from people who haven't been diagnosed with it yet. You know, the same people who would slip through the net of any AIDS travel ban.

 

[Facetious]

How is protecting the US public a bad thing? Should be also allow people with TB, Bird Flu, leprosy, and the plague to come on in?

Cunning, unlike you or I, some people just have -n o t h i n g- to lose. They behold a scorched earth policy in every way imaginable. Sad, huh ?

 

[ChefChiTown]

How, then, did the ban actually work for those people who no one knew had AIDS? Think about it.
I've never even heard stories of people maliciously spreading AIDS deliberately, so unless the US is a nightmare planet, I'm going to make the assumption that most cases are contracted from people who haven't been diagnosed with it yet. You know, the same people who would slip through the net of any AIDS travel ban.

People who haven't been diagnosed with it yet have still contracted AIDS, therefore, making them careless and neglectful in the first place. I know that there are cases in which someone has been completely careful and has still contracted AIDS by accident (broken condom, false negative test, etc), but there are A LOT of stupid, selfish and neglectful people in the world - plenty of which aren't smart enough to take proper precaution to prevent the contraction/spreading of the AIDS virus.

And, I'm surprised that you've never heard of someone maliciously spreading AIDS with deliberation. There are plenty of cases, especially here in the US, in which an infected male has purposely raped a woman (more than likely an ex-girlfriend) in order to "get back at them", so to speak.

Also, here is something to think about...

According to the CDC, there are between 500,000-1,000,000 people living with AIDS in the United States. Why is that number so vague? If there was an easy way to detect and keep track of AIDS infected people, then the number would be more accurate, don't you think? That number is so vague because AIDS is often detected only after it's too late, AKA - after the virus has become fatal, allowing plenty of time for it to be passed along to other people through sex, via careless sexual encounters.

There are also an estimated 40,000 NEW cases of HIV/AIDS that are reported every year in the United States. 40,000 NEW cases of HIV/AIDS each and every year...that doesn't sound to careful to me. I know that AIDS isn't on the forefront of the medical community's mind anymore (as cancer has taken control of everyone's sympathy), but AIDS is still an extremely nasty son of a bitch that people have absolutely no respect for.

http://www.avert.org/usa-statistics.htm

 

[usmc071984]

ill tell ya what i thought a few moments on how i felt about this and my feelings are we have to protect our own first. if it means turning our back on a few that we could help but arent ours in order to prevent spreading any horrible disease, however preventable, it is regrettable but i stand behind it.

 

[Kingfisher]

Sure why not, Americans don't discriminate.....

 

[meesterperfect]

Sure why not, Americans don't discriminate.....

Only against their own.

Fuck it, let them in.
Screw some old person who worked all their lives and paid into every tax there is. Let them croak and take care of some foreigner.
I mean, we don't want to be racist do we?
What would the world think?