Re: How's this'to cheer ya' up: Girl blasts school officials over her friends gang ra
One point of order. The issue of "race" keeps being brought up here. I would like to point out that Hispanics are not a separate "race" per se. They are actually a varying blend of Caucasoid, Negroid and Mongoloid so they truly do not represent a separate "race". Techincally, they are an ethnic group.
Very good point. And you're right. To take it one step further, most of the
race card poker players here are actually talking about Mexicans, not so much Hispanics. And "Mexican" certainly isn't an ethnic group, but a nationality. My ex-fiance was Latina/Hispanic (half Italian and half Spanish), and neither she nor her family liked Mexicans either - they were from Peru. Me, I don't like or dislike Mexicans or anybody else - I pretty much dislike everybody equally! :lovecoupl And I don't like anyone in a gang or any violent criminal. I don't care if you're in the Crips, La Cosa Nostra, Israeli/Russian mafia, Mexican Mafia, Bulldogs, Hells Angels, Triads or Aryan Brotherhood - to me, you're trash, no matter which one of those groups you run with. And being weird like I am, I see a White Hells Angel raping a White girl, a Black Crip raping a Black girl or a Mexican Bulldog raping a Mexican girl as being
just as bad as if they rape a girl from some other nationality, racial or ethnic group. I don't know where I get these crazy ideas from. I'm dating a Democrat right now, so that's probably it. :dunno:
There can obviously be similar sentiments that relate to racial issues when it comes to ethnicity so perhaps the distinction is a small one, but I think it is important to point this out since the word "racism" is one of those politically-charged words that is rife will all sorts of assumed accusatory qualities. I think it is possible to identify certain negative traits that may tend to be more prevalent within certain segments of American society (including certain segments of ethnic groups) without being a bigot and certainly without being a racist. To label all members of that ethnic group as possessing those traits....that is bigoted.
Again, you make very good points. No one is arguing that violent crime rates are not higher among certain races, nationalities, ethnic groups, or for that matter, socio-economic groups (less educated and poor Whites commit a
much higher percentage of violent crimes than better educated, upper middle class and upper class Whites). This can easily be shown by the empirical data... not so much anecdotal stories, from people who have their own (rather unique) perceptions of reality, or might just be making up stories for convenience sake. My interest and frustration in this thread was because of the simple minded fashion that some have in discussing this particular crime - which is horrible, no matter the motivation. But to some, anyone who wants to discuss emperical data or actual facts has to be some kinda left-wing, pinko, commie luvin', race traitor, guilt conscienced liberal... that takes up for
scummy taco benders, who don't do nothin' sides sit 'round and dream about rapin' White womins. Cant you see the truff, man???!!! Theys takin' over!!! 
Yeah, whatever. Like I said, some believe what they believe, just because that's what they like to believe. Some people believe the Earth is 6,000 years old too. And to them, those of us who refer to contrary data are "Godless sinners who are trying to destroy the moral fabric of this great Christian nation." Again, whatever. I always try to consider the source when race and religion topics come up. Data and facts are not what some people want to hear or talk about. Such is life. Ignorance is bliss.
But being a generally good spirited fellow, I think even Facetious appreciates that it really is knee slappin' funny when one uses the argument that Mexicans (or Mexican culture) thrives on rape (to the point that they hang the rape victims' panties from trees!
Dang, that's gacho, Ese!) - and that's supposed to support the belief that Mexicans, in particular, are prone to this sort of thing. But THEN (the part that had me laughing), not 2 days later, the
same person uses a totally different argument (
that completely steps on his first anecdotal claim), to supposedly support his belief that this was indeed a race based hate crime of Mexicans against this White(?) girl. See, some Mexican "friends" of his, combined with his street cred and gut feel, have told him that Mexicans don't dehumanize other Mexicans by raping them. But... uh... wait... what happened to the hanging of the panties from the trees from the Mexican women crossing the border??? And what about those two Mexican girls that the Fresno Bulldogs shot in the head after they raped one of them??? Sumthin' ain't addin' up!
My dad had loads of great sayings when I was growing up. You usually got a wise country saying
just prior to a good ass whoopin'. One was, "If you're going to tell a lie, at least tell a good lie!" Another was, "If you ever rob a bank, at least be smart enough to wear a mask." So some people need to tell better lies on here and work a little harder to mask where they're actually coming from, IMO. :rofl:
The main thing is that this girl recovers as best she can, and the perpetrators of this crime are held accountable and punished to the fullest extent under the law. And hopefully this school and others will learn valuable lessons about security too.
