It isn't a deterrent. Most people come out of prison much worse and more dangerous than when they got there. It's a college for criminals. But you can't think that its a good idea to give EVERY felon the freedom to carry a gun once their sentence has been served. You obviously have some personal attachment to this issue, and I get that. But being naive to think that just because a sentence is served that access to guns is a good thing is just reckless.
Gun Control is Coming - But Listen to This!
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I worked in the guts of the Terrell Unit near Livingston, Texas as a CO-3 from 1995-2001 so I know first hand that you're right when you say people get out worse than they came in. Society needs to be bold enough to tackle prison reform because the system is broken on pretty much all levels. I concede the point that allowing every criminal the same freedoms as the rest of us probably isn't the most sound policy going forward and unfortunately society being what it is will never reach a point that it's a realistic goal. There are too many variables to take into consideration when it comes to background screenings to hope that there would ever come a time when it wouldn't be needed. I fear a future where we're all subject to the same sort of disenfranchisement as convicted felons, where we have so many laws on the books and such ridiculous laws on the books that every one is pretty much guaranteed a tango with the law machine and for a lot of people it's just a matter of not having been caught doing something that could have gotten them branded with the same labels and restrictions as those that have been caught. Career criminals are another story, but I digress.
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Thank you, it's an important conversation that no one seems to be having. I understand that in our rush to "be safe" that convicted felons are an easy target, as they should be, but what is often overlooked is the rate at which the United States incarcerates it's citizens, and the often spurious and dubious circumstances that land a lot of folks in jail. Look at the recent string of police misconduct incidents, had any of the people that ended up dead actually lived no attention would have been brought to their cases and they would very likely have ended up having to plead out to keep from going to prison. We've got a broken system and the biggest of criminals are often the ones running the show.
I have been accused of name calling those that disagree with me and being mean and insulting. I just want it on the record that I very strongly disagree with you on this matter and not once did our exchange get mean or personal or insulting. I am like anyone else, I'll treat people how they treat me.
There I said it! Now my haters can disagree lol
There I said it! Now my haters can disagree lol
Mr. Daystar
In a bell tower, watching you through cross hairs.
Because on some occasions, you do, and you are. I find some of your posts to be very well thought out, and some to be very much full of attitude, and as we all know, sometimes we just have that kind of a day. I think your politeness in many of the posts you've made in this thread are apparent. It's obvious you aren't an ignorant person, but sometimes I think you work harder at trying to prove that, then to try and see both sides, and have a rational discussion.
Maybe you just need a hug...............and a Valium the size of a big mac!
Rey C.
Racing is life... anything else is just waiting.
You didn't beg for anything. You wanted data and I gave you studies which provided data to support my assertion. If you didn't read or believe the Syracuse study on prosecutions (or lack thereof) and want to believe that the DoJ is doing a cracking job, that's your fantasy to live, not mine. It's not my job to convince you otherwise. I don't have proof for the assertion that you falsely claim that I made (that the Chicago police were ignoring Black gangstas specifically) because I don't believe that and I didn't state that.
If you want to create more laws which deal with the areas of gun violence that don't statistically contribute to the overall issue, ignore the fact that existing gun laws are not being enforced in many municipalities and continue believing that these additional laws (which will also go unenforced) will have any affect, go for it. Like I said, that's no different than the Clinton/Reno laws which dealt with bayonet lugs and pistol grips: imagery and appearance. Those of us who actually want to see real decreases in firearms related violence will continue focusing on real solutions and areas of compromise, not imagery and appearance.
