Do you dislike Russian/Eastern block porn?

Women are beautiful in all countries.


But there's something I'm curious about really... for a long time I've had a strange aversion to pornography from poorer nations, but just lately, specifically find myself avoiding all pornography from Eastern Europe. Seems that more and more of the actresses we see are are from places like Russia, Poland, Ukraine and especially the Czech Republic, to the guys producing the porn it seems to make sense to hire girls from areas with low average wages and poverty because they're likely to work for far less.

I just wanted to share this aversion I have because I'm curious if anyone else finds it difficult to get excited by these scenes, often the girls seem unhappy or labouring smiles in the pics, the decor of the location is often very 70s, cheap flowery wallpaper, worn out carpets and you can almost smell the dampness in the motel room.

I just...don't get off on it, is that just me?
 

lechepicha

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got any specific examples ? (pics, videos)

it sounds pretty racist, Kelph...

and you know what Spike Lee says: "what's the Right Thing do do? NOT racism"
 
Let me start again, after all, I was hoping to avoid the racism card with the first line:

Women are beautiful in all countries.

This thread is not about race, lets not make it about race. Of course I'm not racist, I'm half Ukrainian...perhaps that's why I've started making a distinction in the quality of pornography. I've been to some of the poorer cities in these places - such as Cherkasy, Ukraine where in the freezing harshness of -25°c of winter, most the population, living in poverty, in endless seas of high-rise tower block flats, can't afford to heat their home for more than a few hours per day.

What I'm getting at is there seems to be a division of quality, between Western and Russian porn and I was wondering if anybody else had the same thoughts.
 
Haven't seen much of it so I can't really comment. Got some examples for us?
 

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I don't know about wallpaper, and 70's sets, but I hear you when you talk about women from eastern europe. I don't have any opinions on quality, dislikes etc, but I know that many of the women in shoots come from countries that are very poor. I always wonder what payment is like compared with the US.
 
I avoid East Euro porn because the girls look too much like girls. I question the age of most of them. Besides, I haven't watched any East Euro scene that had any sort of "chemistry" between the actors...they literally look like they check their watches. No emotion anywhere...
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I don't know about wallpaper, and 70's sets, but I hear you when you talk about women from eastern europe. I don't have any opinions on quality, dislikes etc, but I know that many of the women in shoots come from countries that are very poor. I always wonder what payment is like compared with the US.

Payment is around 250 Euro for an afternoon, depends a bit on the name of the model.
White Russia is definitely cheaper but it is not so easy to photograph there. The Czech republic i.e. Prague is much more tolerant and there are many models available - most coy's like ALS, MetArt, a.m.o. work from there.

Studio's are for rent but they go against normal prices. Camera's are easy to rent, mostly in the studio environment.
 

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Payment is around 250 Euro for an afternoon, depends a bit on the name of the model.
White Russia is definitely cheaper but it is not so easy to photograph there. The Czech republic i.e. Prague is much more tolerant and there are many models available - most coy's like ALS, MetArt, a.m.o. work from there.

Studio's are for rent but they go against normal prices. Camera's are easy to rent, mostly in the studio environment.

Thanks for that, anyone know standars US rates?
 

Rey C.

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Women are beautiful in all countries.


But there's something I'm curious about really... for a long time I've had a strange aversion to pornography from poorer nations, but just lately, specifically find myself avoiding all pornography from Eastern Europe. Seems that more and more of the actresses we see are are from places like Russia, Poland, Ukraine and especially the Czech Republic, to the guys producing the porn it seems to make sense to hire girls from areas with low average wages and poverty because they're likely to work for far less.

I know what you mean, but since the recession hit and with so many girls on the market now, the (average) actresses and models in the U.S. aren't exactly making a fortune either. I'm just saying that it's all relative. But whether it's shirts, shoes or porn, producers are always trying to cut costs and keep them low. The guy who did (does?) the Exploited Teens Asia and Street Meat sites, with Thai and Vietnamese girls, seemed to be using exploitation as a selling point - Crack Whore Confessions is based on the same exploitative premise. For the most part, I'm guessing these Eastern Bloc producers "exploit" in the same way that producers here do: just a result of doing business. But with that said, there is some really hard edged and far out porn coming out of Eastern Europe. Some of it makes Max Hardcore look like the Easter Bunny. So, maybe that's the stuff you're talking about. :dunno:


I just wanted to share this aversion I have because I'm curious if anyone else finds it difficult to get excited by these scenes, often the girls seem unhappy or labouring smiles in the pics, the decor of the location is often very 70s, cheap flowery wallpaper, worn out carpets and you can almost smell the dampness in the motel room.

I just...don't get off on it, is that just me?

Yeah, the backdrops and decor could pass for something out of 1970's America. In fact, the Eastern Euro scenes that I've seen remind me of the loops and movies made in New York in the 70's; they have that cheap, gritty, sleazy feel to them. In 20 years, Russian porn will probably look more like the U.S. circa 2005. :1orglaugh
 
Here you go either way. I like slim and trim bodies. Not the oversized US girl that you will find under whatever name. So are other people. Matter of taste.
About ages: In Russia and White Russia uncontrollable. Minors are used, definitely. Like ******** did, although they caught him. Very difficult to see if a girl is 17 or just legal 18. Even 16 y.o. look very mature. Make up and so will do the rest. Quality of photography is much better over here than in the US. My opinion. But I haven't seen that many quality US sites.
 

Facetious

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"Eastern Bloc" ? You mean like, "Czechoslovakia" :1orglaugh ? Them Czech Rep babes are dolls, it's just that there has been all too much imposing lezbo influence thrust upon the young adolescent Czech and Hungarian girls over the years it would seem that the heterosexual community has become the outcast minority !

I have my ideas about who is financing the same sex orientation throughout the world, any guesses ? Hint - He's once nearly busted the Brit pound as well as the Indonesian currency, he's a megalomaniacal social architect, he influences the outcome of elections throughout the world and he fled from the nazis as a kid. :hammer: :mad:

As for Russian / Baltic "stuff", I haven't really investigated it because of the non english language barriers.
 
"Eastern Bloc" ? You mean like, "Czechoslovakia" :1orglaugh ? Them Czech Rep babes are dolls, it's just that there has been all too much imposing lezbo influence thrust upon the young adolescent Czech and Hungarian girls over the years it would seem that the heterosexual community has become the outcast minority !

I have my ideas about who is financing the same sex orientation throughout the world, any guesses ? Hint - He's once nearly busted the Brit pound as well as the Indonesian currency, he's a megalomaniacal social architect, he influences the outcome of elections throughout the world and he fled from the nazis as a kid. :hammer: :mad:

As for Russian / Baltic "stuff", I haven't really investigated it because of the non english language barriers.

russian/baltic stuff can be pretty hot especially lithuanian and estonian girls,they are as good as czech or hungarian girls. I can also recommend you danish and swedish girls, tall and big titted too.
 
I thought it was illegal anyways. Didn't Alice Wonderbang and some other Ukranian model(s?) of some sort get arrested for doing porn because Ukranian law forbids it, or something?

Either way, who cares. You like what you like. Some people like solo models. Others hardcore. Some freaky fetish. And my personal favorite: Mayonnaise on a group of midgets while a amputee licks it off and then barfs everywhere. I'll never forget that time Blueballs picked me up for a day of fun and he showed me his home videos! :hatsoff:

::sigh::
 
First of all, please make a distinction between Russian/Ukrainian & Czech/Hungarian pornstars. Second of all, are you talking about pornography or nude modeling?

I don't know about wallpaper, and 70's sets, but I hear you when you talk about women from eastern europe. I don't have any opinions on quality, dislikes etc, but I know that many of the women in shoots come from countries that are very poor. I always wonder what payment is like compared with the US.

The same as an American model. Considering the fact that there are also American models working for Russian sites it'd be discriminating & thus offendable (discrimination) if companies paid the American girls more purely based on their nationality.

Relatively speaking, a EU girl should be making a lot more money than their American counterparts, if they didn't live in big cities like Prague or Budapest. But even though the nominal wages in most central/eastern EU countries is lower than in the US, I have a feeling this is not the case in those cities (I've been to both & the prices in stores don't differ much. At least not in the city centres...).

Payment is around 250 Euro for an afternoon, depends a bit on the name of the model.
White Russia is definitely cheaper but it is not so easy to photograph there. The Czech republic i.e. Prague is much more tolerant and there are many models available - most coy's like ALS, MetArt, a.m.o. work from there.

Studio's are for rent but they go against normal prices. Camera's are easy to rent, mostly in the studio environment.

Indeed, it depends on the name of the girl and also what she's going to do.

Hardcore in the US pays about $500.= for a well known model & I think it's roughly the same in central & Eastern Europe. ALS is an American company, btw, just like 21sextury (I found out not too long ago), although both focus mainly on EU girls & I think both have their European HQ in Budapest, not Prague. Either ALS took over DDFprod or the other way around (or they simply merged) & DDFprod is also situated in Budapest. Met-Art is American as well.

http://goliath.ecnext.com/coms2/product-compint-0000660906-page.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MET-ART

I believe the $250 is for solo or girl/girl in Europe. (not sure though)

Here you go either way. I like slim and trim bodies. Not the oversized US girl that you will find under whatever name. So are other people. Matter of taste.
About ages: In Russia and White Russia uncontrollable. Minors are used, definitely. Like ******** did, although they caught him. Very difficult to see if a girl is 17 or just legal 18. Even 16 y.o. look very mature. Make up and so will do the rest. Quality of photography is much better over here than in the US. My opinion. But I haven't seen that many quality US sites.

Gal itsin? I read about him, his trial, etc. I've followed a discussion concerning this and people still haven't been able to convince eachother whether the girl in question was 18 or not. One side says the girl was 18 and that he was convicted by a Russian court nonetheless while the other side claims the Russian court wouldn't do such a thing.

I don't know about the Russian laws, but in the Netherlands, the age at which a girl was allowed to pose naked was 16 only a few years ago (it's currently 18), even though the age at which she was allowed to have sexual intercourse was 18 (& still is 18). Since girls do not engage in sexual activity on sites like femjoy (don't know where they're from), Zemani, Skokoff, etc. it is indeed possible that some of these girls might not be 18 yet, although I assume they have to be 18 for American companies (so you're safe to look at girls from MET-Art). ******** engaged in sexual activity (on screen) with a girl which was later to be 17.

Anyway, I personally prefer Czech & Hungarian girls over their American counterparts. At least they don't look like they've had X types of drugs before the actual shoot/movie.

Russian/Ukrainian girls are a different story, however. I too sometimes wonder if the Russian/Ukrainian girl actually want to be in the HC scene & I generally stick to those girls that are well known and have worked for a multitude of companies, including ALS, 21s, DDF, etc.
 
I have my ideas about who is financing the same sex orientation throughout the world, any guesses ? Hint - He's once nearly busted the Brit pound as well as the Indonesian currency, he's a megalomaniacal social architect, he influences the outcome of elections throughout the world and he fled from the nazis as a kid. :hammer: :mad:

Hmm. So it's not a good thing that the Nazis didn't throw him in a concentration camp? There seems to be a nazi-sympathizer *whiff* running through that last part. It definitely must be the holidays, Facetious is in such a warm mood...:rolleyes:

You'd think with your George Soros obsession that you'd atleast be on his Holiday card list:dunno::crying:
 

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Damn I would have to hate half my family members. Polish and Ukrainian
 
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