Definition of Honor (stemmed from 9/11 tribute thread)

[JacknCoke]

Since I feel there is to much argument going on in a tribute thread I have opened this up for plenty of argument since there is always so much of it on here. This is in response to Chef's rant about honor and remembrance within that thread.

Here is Meriam-Webster's online definition for honor (pay close attention to the bold part)

1 a : good name or public esteem : reputation b : a showing of usually merited respect : recognition <pay honor to our founder>

Now reiterate your point on how we do not "honor" those lost by holding funerals, building monument's or putting flowers on they grave's? I am just in shock at the fact that honoring someone only falls under hidden actions to prevent what happened to them. How is this only remembering them?

here's what Chef said:

No, I'm not saying that you wouldn't feel bad for somebody who died just because you didn't know them. I'm just saying that it's hard to HONOR them; not impossible, but hard. See the example of my funeral for my explanation, but, just to add to it...

Are we really honoring anybody by taking off our baseball hats during the National Anthem? Are we really honoring anybody by putting flowers on their grave? Are we really honoring anybody by having a holiday for them or building them a memorial? No, not necessarily. All we are accomplishing by doing those things is remembering them; not honoring them. There's a big difference.

For instance, if we truly wanted to honor the people that died during the 9/11 attacks, we (as a country) would do whatever we could in order to prevent it from ever happening again, so nobody else would have to suffer through what they went through. Yes, we have taken steps to do such a thing, but building a monument doesn't fit into that category.

Martin Luther King Jr. fought for equal rights. He wanted people of all colors to treat eachother as people, and not as a color. Martin Luther King Jr. preached about equality and how all human beings should love eachother, no matter the color of their skin. For his efforts, the United States designated a holiday for him; Martin Luther King Jr. Day. Does that honor him? No. Fuck no. It just helps us to remember him. If we truly wanted to honor him, then we wouldn't commit **** crimes, discriminate against people of other colors or allow our fears to control our actions towards people who were different than us.

There's a huge difference between remembering somebody and honoring them and I think that a lot of people (not just in this thread) have a hard time realizing that.

I can see how he is correct in saying that you honor them by acting to prevent further cause, but I am a strong believer that I too can honor someone by "remembering" them. Because 'I" as a citizen can not do much in the **** of preventing ****** attacks or death I will do more in ways of ceremony and prayer, and that is how I HONOR those lost but never forgotten.