cliven Bundy- great american patriot or freeloading garbage

I'm absolutely shocked with all the hype over this moron. what's everybody is take?
To me he is not better then a renter that has quit paying his rent. He should be evicted. To say he has been grazing there since the 40's so it's his (remember his dad paid the fee) is the same as said renter saying your house is his now because he has been living there.
 
Sorry, I thought about it after I posted but work get in the way of fixing it
 
But the teaparty will defend him because he is a millionaire
 

Ace Boobtoucher

Founder and Captain of the Douchepatrol
You are fucking retarded. The federal govt holds more than eighty percent of the land in Nevada but the Bundy's have been grazing their cattle on the land in question since the 1870's. Bundy has stated that he would pay grazing fees to the proper authorities, which he believes to be the state and Clarke County, not the feds. The BLM has also announced their intention was to protect the desert tortoise, which by all accounts is not endangered. Earlier in the year the feds stated Bundy owed $300,000 in back grazing fees. Once it became national news that amount jumped to one million dollars. A private contractor from Utah received over $960,000 from the feds to assist in the wrangling of Bundy's rogue cattle.

This isn't about the disputed money. It's about power and the absurd amount of control the government has in the daily life of American farmers and ranchers.


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first off cock sucker, I've never fucking come at you disrespectful like you just did me, so fuck off and eat a dick. second of all it's been proven they've only been grazing there since the 1940s. don't believe the bullshit, fuck off and die. but by your argument since the government has plenty of land, I love the redwood forest how about I claim it as mine, everybody get the f*** out, jackass
 

Will E Worm

Conspiracy...
He's a hero.


BREAKING: NEW EVIDENCE POINTS TO HARRY REID IN THE BUNDY CATTLE RANCH INVASION BY FEDS (VIDEO)

The Bureau of Land Management, whose director was Sen. Harry Reid’s (D-Nev.) former senior adviser, has purged documents from its web site stating that the agency wants Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy’s cattle off of the land his family has worked for over 140 years in order to make way for solar panel power stations.


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It's about power and the absurd amount of control the government has in the daily life of American farmers and ranchers.

I bet some of those farmers and ranchers have vaginas, therefore the government should be controlling them. And with about 20 billion a year in farm subsidies, why shouldn't they?

But anyway, it's not about that at all. These guys aren't farmers, they're illegal squatters. Why should they get free use of public land?
 
what is it with all of those people wanting federal freebies
 

Jagger69

Three lullabies in an ancient tongue
He's a freeloader who's been getting away with stealing from the government for years. By the same token, shame on the federal enforcers who, until recently, have allowed him and his family to do this for over 60 years and didn't deem this worthy of pursuit. Now, it's priority one. Some sort of reasonable compromise should be negotiated if only cooler heads will prevail. Somehow, I don't see that happening. Hopefully, it won't end in a tragic debacle like Waco did.
 
Cliven Bundy is breaking the law and has lost all of his court challenges so far. But how I see it, he's exercising civil disobedience for what he considers an unjust law.

For one, forcing cattle ranchers off of land to protect the desert tortoise is a farce. Desert tortoises actually benefit and thrive off of cattle grazing. And due to lack of federal funding, the Desert Tortoise Conservation Center in Nevada was forced to close with hundreds of tortoises deemed not healthy enough to survive in the wild euthanized. An estimated $1 million was spent to round up Bundy's cattle. That could've run the conservation center for another year.

What's interesting is why the BLM hasn't taken Cliven Bundy to court? There's something called Prescriptive Rights that may be in play:


http://benswann.com/exclusive-does-...-why-the-blm-may-be-afraid-of-going-to-court/


Cliven has said he doesn't refuse to pay grazing fees but just not to the federal government. If he's willing to pay the fees to Clark County who in turn could just turn the fees over to the feds then that would be problem solved yes?

No, just send in the armed federal agents with dogs and tasers to deal with this "domestic terrorist".
 

Mayhem

Banned
"We're actually strategizing to put all the women at the front. If they're going to start shooting, it's going to be women that are televised all across the world, getting shot by these rogue, Federal officers." - Richard Mack, Fmr Arizona Sheriff.

Same tactics as Hezbollah, the Syrian Government, Saddam Hussein, the Taliban and AlQueda. Gawd Bless 'Murica! YeeHaw!
 

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http://crooksandliars.com/2014/04/cliven-bundy-muses-what-he-knows-about

Cliven Bundy Muses On "What He Knows About The Negro"

The standoff at Bundy Ranch is over, but Cliven Bundy can't quite let go of the limelight, so he is giving a daily press conference. If he has nothing to say, he's got plenty of opinions to share with reporters.

New York Times:

“I want to tell you one more thing I know about the Negro,” he said. Mr. Bundy recalled driving past a public-housing project in North Las Vegas, “and in front of that government house the door was usually open and the older people and the kids — and there is always at least a half a dozen people sitting on the porch — they didn’t have nothing to do. They didn’t have nothing for their kids to do. They didn’t have nothing for their young girls to do.

“And because they were basically on government subsidy, so now what do they do?” he asked. “They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never learned how to pick cotton. And I’ve often wondered, are they better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy? They didn’t get no more freedom. They got less freedom.”

Two things to remember about this. First, Rand Paul and Dean Heller think this guy is a patriot and a hero. Second, the United States Supreme Court thinks race is no longer an issue any of us need to worry about.

Having read Bundy's remarks, is anyone at all surprised that he doesn't recognize the federal government's authority?

Yeah, I didn't think so.

Also, a factcheck for the New York Times. This paragraph needs to be corrected:

Mr. Bundy, whose family has grazed cattle here since they homesteaded in the 1870s, owes the government more than $1 million in grazing fees. He stopped paying after the bureau ordered him to restrict the periods when his herd roamed the 600,000-acre Gold Butte area as part of an effort to protect the endangered desert tortoise.

You got taken for a ride, NYT. Bundy's family didn't buy that land until 1948 and didn't start grazing their cattle on it until 1954.

Update: Rand Paul (predictably) distanced himself from Bundy's remarks, saying "he completely disagrees with Mr. Bundy's appalling and racist statements, and condemns them in the most strenuous way."

However, let's not forget that Rand Paul's former social media director and book co-author Jack Hunter would be quite in agreement with Mr. Bundy. Senator Paul also supported doing away with the Civil Rights Act, and his former spokesperson Chris Hightower also posted racist remarks on Facebook. Sometimes actions speak louder than the strongest condemnation of someone else's opinion.

Update 2: Waiting for Governor Rick Perry to walk back his praise for Mr. Bundy, too. I won't hold my breath.
 
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