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BREAKING:WAPO: Kushner Proposed Secret Communication Channel With Kremlin

Jared Kushner and Russia’s ambassador to Washington discussed the possibility of setting up a secret and secure communications channel between Trump’s transition team and the Kremlin, using Russian diplomatic facilities in an apparent move to shield their pre-inauguration discussions from monitoring, according to U.S. officials briefed on intelligence reports.

Ambassador Sergey Kislyak reported to his superiors in Moscow that Kushner, son-in-law and confidant to then-President-elect Trump, made the proposal during a meeting on Dec. 1 or 2 at Trump Tower, according to intercepts of Russian communications that were reviewed by U.S. officials. Kislyak said Kushner suggested using Russian diplomatic facilities in the United States for the communications.

The meeting also was attended by Michael Flynn, Trump’s first national security adviser.

The White House disclosed the meeting only in March, playing down its significance. But people familiar with the matter say the FBI now considers the encounter, as well as another meeting Kushner had with a Russian banker, to be of investigative interest.

Kislyak reportedly was taken aback by the suggestion of allowing an American to use Russian communications gear at its embassy or consulate — a proposal that would have carried security risks for Moscow as well as the Trump team.

Neither the meeting nor the communications of Americans involved were under U.S. surveillance, officials said.

The White House declined to comment. Robert Kelner, a lawyer for Flynn, declined to comment. The Russian Embassy did not respond to requests for comment.

Russia at times feeds false information into communication streams it suspects are monitored as a way of sowing misinformation and confusion among U.S. analysts. But officials said that it’s unclear what Kislyak would have had to gain by falsely characterizing his contacts with Kushner to Moscow, particularly at a time when the Kremlin still saw the prospect of dramatically improved relations with Trump.

Kushner’s apparent interest in establishing a secret channel with Moscow, rather than relying on U.S. government systems, has added to the intrigue surrounding the Trump administration’s relationship with Russia.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...p-top-table-high_kushner-705pm:homepage/story

Kislyak was taken aback because it was a crazy idea! Underscores how little Kushner knew about diplomacy or Intel. Hope he knows more now

Discuss amongst yourselves. Charleston, SC for the weekend. See ya Tuesday. Happy Memorial Day
 
If there was Russian collusion with Trump during the campaign, wouldn't they already have had a secret and secure communication channel?

And "Happy" Memorial Day is the wrong sentiment for obvious reasons.
 
That's because some idiots view Memorial Day as a 3 day weekend and grilling out.

Pisses me off that it is a celebration.

Oh, and since Trump suspected Obama ordered surveillance on him, why wouldn't they establish back channel communication?
 
So, all of the drumpf team's interactions with the Russians were completely above board, and drumpf knew Obama was spying on him illegally, because he's like a smart person, so that's why they had to set up a secret secure channel of communication? To hide the perfectly legal things from the illegal surveillance?

You should stop and think before you regurgitate what Limbaugh feeds you.
 
So, all of the drumpf team's interactions with the Russians were completely above board, and drumpf knew Obama was spying on him illegally, because he's like a smart person, so that's why they had to set up a secret secure channel of communication? To hide the perfectly legal things from the illegal surveillance?

You should stop and think before you regurgitate what Limbaugh feeds you.

a secret secure channel of communication after the election had already been decided. because you're like a smart person.

Obamacare is here to stay, it's the best thing to happen to U.S. healthcare - Mongo

how's your wife and her boyfriend?
 
So, all of the drumpf team's interactions with the Russians were completely above board, and drumpf knew Obama was spying on him illegally, because he's like a smart person, so that's why they had to set up a secret secure channel of communication? To hide the perfectly legal things from the illegal surveillance?

You should stop and think before you regurgitate what Limbaugh feeds you.

Poor monghole

I have been saying that he is a masochist and loves having his ass kicked around here..

He probably secretly masturbates to photos of GOP politicians

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/la-oe-mcmanus15-2009mar15-column.html

He has an unnatural fixation on Republicans.
 

HansMoleman

Chief Porn Collector
So, all of the drumpf team's interactions with the Russians were completely above board, and drumpf knew Obama was spying on him illegally, because he's like a smart person, so that's why they had to set up a secret secure channel of communication? To hide the perfectly legal things from the illegal surveillance?

You should stop and think before you regurgitate what Limbaugh feeds you.

It is really weird that the party of anti-Russia is totally ok now with a US presidential candidate trusting Russian spies over US intel, plotting secret communication channels at Russian facilities where they are sure to be wiretapped and videoed. But I guess as long as its Russian spies its better than US? I'm so confused as to what is going on... how is this a partisan issue? As an independent, I'm sad to think we have an administration that's going to have to start issuing pardons to keep themselves out of jail. Seems like dozens of people at very senior levels are working against US interests and plotting to put Russian interests above ours.
 
It is really weird that the party of anti-Russia is totally ok now with a US presidential candidate trusting Russian spies over US intel, plotting secret communication channels at Russian facilities where they are sure to be wiretapped and videoed. But I guess as long as its Russian spies its better than US? I'm so confused as to what is going on... how is this a partisan issue? As an independent, I'm sad to think we have an administration that's going to have to start issuing pardons to keep themselves out of jail. Seems like dozens of people at very senior levels are working against US interests and plotting to put Russian interests above ours.

That's rich considering the media and Democrats had orgasms over Gorbachev and his wife Raisa and Reagan was the bad guy and Mikhail was the peacemaker.
 
Has he Tweeted that same sentiment since then? That was 2015. He should know better if he has.

ETA: Just checked both his personal and POTUS timelines. Nothing mentioning Memorial Day. Perhaps tomorrow.
 
Yeah I don't think he's made any tweets about it since being POTUS. We'll see what tomorrow brings as you say. Hopefully recent reports that he may have someone peruse his tweets before he sends them are true. I noticed he prefaced some remarks he sent out today with "In my opinion...." which he supposedly has never done before so maybe they already are. Frankly, I wish he wouldn't comment on the investigation at all. Maybe Kasowitz is already exerting some controlling influence? Sure hope so.
 
I want him to Tweet because it is sometimes helpful in getting his message out there. That said, having some of his Tweets reviewed by counsel or staff could prove helpful. I understand part of it because he gets unfair treatment by the media and he feels like lashing out.
Just have a cool down period before he says something. It works for me :)
 
how's your wife and her boyfriend?

Whoa, sick burn bro! How am I going to recover from that???

How's your wife? The one you said was dead in order to score imaginary points on an internet message board? Probably wishes she was dead, rather than married to an idiot who spends all his time playing computer games and professing his love for a senile old man because he can't tell the difference between leadership and tantrum throwing.


So now you're claiming that Kushner trying to set up a secret line through the Russian embassy to the Kremlin is no different from Obama acting on advice from security and intelligence officials as well as US and European Iran experts to offer a diplomatic line for peace talks with Iran? Were you the kid in pre-school that was always trying to fit the square block into the round hole?

My fixation on republicans is perfectly natural. They are the ones attacking freedom and democracy in the USA. Your country's rapidly hastening decline is all on you.
 
Whoa, sick burn bro! How am I going to recover from that???

That wasn't meant as a burn. I genuinely wish the three of you the best.


My fixation on republicans is perfectly natural. They are the ones attacking freedom and democracy in the USA. Your country's rapidly hastening decline is all on you.

Oh noes, if something isn't done to stop them, "democracy in the U.S. will disappear forever." I believe that's your direct quote, you deranged loon. You sound like that dickhead Rachel Maddow.

And Trump is the childish one.
 
C'mon people. A certain degree of attacking each other is probably to be expected in this sandbox, but attacking family is just plain wrong.
 
If there was Russian collusion with Trump during the campaign, wouldn't they already have had a secret and secure communication channel?

And "Happy" Memorial Day is the wrong sentiment for obvious reasons.

That's because some idiots view Memorial Day as a 3 day weekend and grilling out.

Pisses me off that it is a celebration.

Oh, and since Trump suspected Obama ordered surveillance on him, why wouldn't they establish back channel communication?

PC Police out in full force folks. Add that to the long list of things we can't say anymore. I had a HAPPY Memorial Day. And I hope everyone else had a HAPPY one too. Especially those who served. So once again I want to wish everyone a belated HAPPY Memorial Day

Sick and tired of this PC bullshit
 
PC Police out in full force folks. Add that to the long list of things we can't say anymore. I had a HAPPY Memorial Day. And I hope everyone else had a HAPPY one too. Especially those who served. So once again I want to wish everyone a belated HAPPY Memorial Day

Sick and tired of this PC bullshit

Yep. Nobody went to war because they wanted everyone to sit and cry for the first weekend of summer. They were fighting for freedom and the continuation of their way of life. It's asinine to think people can't enjoy the long weekend and not also have respect and gratitude for those who served.
 
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