5 Instances of GOP Hypocrisy on Obamacare Repeal

For seven years, Republicans campaigned on a single message: Obamacare was rammed through Congress by power-hungry Democrats who rushed a hastily written bill riddled with backroom kickbacks.

But now, after vowing for years that the repeal process would be different, with regular order and plenty of public scrutiny, Republicans are doing the exact same thing — or worse — that they blasted Democrats for repeatedly. Here’s how:

1. No CBO score: With all the last-minute changes to Republicans’ original repeal plan, the Congressional Budget Office won’t have an estimate of the potential impact for several days, if not weeks. That means lawmakers voted on a bill with no idea whether it will still lead to 24 million people uninsured — like the first proposal — or cause premiums to skyrocket.

House Speaker Paul Ryan, then ranking member on the Budget Committee, railed against the prospect of voting without a CBO report during the Obamacare debate. "I don’t think we should pass bills that we haven’t read, that we don’t know what they cost,” Ryan said on MSNBC in 2009. And in fact, the Democratic-led House only voted on the bill after it received a CBO analysis.

2. Voting on a bill they haven’t read: Republicans blasted Democrats for years for voting on a bill without fully understanding the consequences. House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi’s famous comment that lawmakers had “to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it” was used as a rallying cry for angry Republicans who vowed to dismantle the law as soon as they could.

“Have you read the bill? Have you read the reconciliation bill? Have you read the manager's amendment? Hell no you haven’t!” then-House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) said in a fiery floor speech shortly before the Affordable Care Act passed the House.

That was then, this is now. Republican leaders made significant last-minute changes to their bill Wednesday, adding an amendment with more money to cover patients with pre-existing conditions as a way to bring wary moderates on board. But some GOP lawmakers readily admitted they would back a bill that they hadn’t even read. "I don't think any individual has read the whole bill," Rep. Thomas Garrett (R-Va.) said on MSNBC Thursday. "That's why we have staff."

3. Congressional carve out: The initial compromise released last week by House Freedom Caucus Chairman Mark Meadows (R-N.C.) and moderate Rep. Tom MacArthur (R-N.J.) included an exemption for lawmakers and their staff. House Democrats’ campaign arm quickly seized on the provision, saying Republicans’ repeal plan was so bad, even they didn't want to be affected by it.

Republican negotiators said the provision was necessary to avoid running afoul of the Senate’s strict budget rules that would allow the bill to pass the upper chamber with just 51 votes. Still, some Republican rank-and-file members balked at the optics and threatened to withhold their support unless it was removed. The repeal plan still includes the exemption but the House also passed a separate bill Thursday that nixes it.

4. No committee hearings: When Republicans' original repeal plan was voted out of multiple committees in March, Ryan and other GOP leaders boasted that they were bringing “regular order” back to Congress.

But this time is a different story. The revised repeal plan lawmakers voted on Thursday had significant changes and was considered on the House floor without a single hearing by the main committees of jurisdiction. The bill did go through the Rules Committee, which governs floor debate.

"A bill -- finalized yesterday, has not been scored, amendments not allowed, and 3 hours final debate -- should be viewed with caution,” Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) tweeted Thursday.

5. Partisan vote: House Republicans eagerly point out that Democrats passed Obamacare in 2010 without a single GOP vote. Democrats counter that one of the main tenets of Obamacare — the individual mandate — was inspired by Republican Gov. Mitt Romney’s health care plan in Massachusetts.

Democrats also point out that as Obamacare moved through the committee process, several Republican amendments were considered and adopted. Senate Democrats also spent months negotiating with Republicans to try to win bipartisan support.

Republican leaders dispute the changes they made to the bill over the last two weeks are significant. “This bill has been online for a month, went through four committees, and the only change this week was a simple three-page amendment," Ryan spokeswoman AshLee Strong said in a statement. "The truth is that Democrats aren't concerned about process. They just want to protect their failing Obamacare law.”

But without the changes, including last week's eight-page amendment from MacArthur and Meadows that targets fundamental pieces of Obamacare, Republicans wouldn't have enough votes to pass their repeal.

“Rank hypocrisy [and] situational ethics,” House Minority Whip Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) said in an interview. “It’s okay if we do it, it wasn’t okay if you do it. It’s phony and they know it’s phony.”
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/04/obamacare-repeal-vote-republican-hypocrisy-237981

Who 'membahs this? Come on you 'membah. :1orglaugh

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The CBO traditionally have not a accurately scored anything in the private sector and the AHCA is still a law for the private sector.

The 8 billion reserved for preexisting conditions is a single payer program of sorts.
 

bobjustbob

Proud member of FreeOnes Hall Of Fame. Retired to
Do these congress people on the left want us to believe that Obamacare is the perfect solution to the American healthcare system? They have admitted that it needs tweaks UNTIL it was time to make tweaks. None of those 194 stepped up to suggest ANY changes. Mouths shut and lock stepped. There is no center for those electorates. A year from now they will be campaigning to hold their seats. If they want to be in touch with middle America they better start doing it soon. Rhetoric failed to be a selling point for them.
 
So, ObamaCare will soon be repealed but the TrumpCare wasn't passed so how will this work ? Back to how things were before ObamazCare with millions of people with 0 healthcare ?
 

bobjustbob

Proud member of FreeOnes Hall Of Fame. Retired to
So, ObamaCare will soon be repealed but the TrumpCare wasn't passed so how will this work ? Back to how things were before ObamazCare with millions of people with 0 healthcare ?

Under Obamacare there were millions of people with no healthcare also. This included huge premiums and deductibles. Lay out 10G before I can get any benefit at all.
 

Rattrap

Doesn't feed trolls and would appreciate it if you
Do these congress people on the left want us to believe that Obamacare is the perfect solution to the American healthcare system? They have admitted that it needs tweaks UNTIL it was time to make tweaks. None of those 194 stepped up to suggest ANY changes. Mouths shut and lock stepped.

...except for over 100 of them. https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/676/cosponsors

I'm noticing a worrying trend bob. Don't go there, please. Don't let 'anti-left' make you 'anti-smart'.
 

Luxman

#TRE45ON
 

meesterperfect

Hiliary 2020
Up until around 1989 I went to the same doctor my whole life.
20.00 for whatever ailed ya.
Around 1984 he raised his fee to 25.00.
That was when he took that big fish hook out my back. Took like a half hour, fucking thing was in there.
Good doctor too. Reminded me of Vincent Price. Office was always cold and smelled clean, I loved that smell.
How come we can't go back to that system?

Sadly I suppose he died by now. The office is gone and where it stood is a parking lot for one of them Macdonalds restuarants.
Guess thats what they call progress.
 
If there's a silver lining in this it's that the Senate is more independent than those stooges in the house. They're not going to be intimidated by threats from this administration. I could see there being some bipartisanship in the Senate. Something like a gang of 8 bill or something. Because no way are they going to pass this shit burger of a bill from the House. I mean more than likely it's still going to be shitty but at least it'll be less shitty than the house version
 
...except for over 100 of them. https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/676/cosponsors

I'm noticing a worrying trend bob. Don't go there, please. Don't let 'anti-left' make you 'anti-smart'.

That bill was nothing more than the Democrat equivalent of the Obamacare repeals or alternative bills that were sent to Obama that they knew he'd never sign or that Democrats would never get onboard with

It was sponsored to give Democrats cover..

John Conyers :1orglaugh

Stop with your leftwing lies and horseshit.

Only the weak minded buy into your crap.

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If there's a silver lining in this it's that the Senate is more independent than those stooges in the house. They're not going to be intimidated by threats from this administration. I could see there being some bipartisanship in the Senate. Something like a gang of 8 bill or something. Because no way are they going to pass this shit burger of a bill from the House. I mean more than likely it's still going to be shitty but at least it'll be less shitty than the house version

Some of your illegal relatives won't be getting healthcare eh?
 

Supafly

Retired Mod
Bronze Member
The fucking "Repeal" is 192 billion short. Just look at the things it cuts away. That is open class warfare.

 

Luxman

#TRE45ON
The Republicans will probably attach a short and hidden Rider somewhere in the Trumpcare bill so that the senate passes Trumpcare aka Richcare.
The Rider will probably be a senate pay raise or something that appeals to the greedy senators.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rider_(legislation)
 
This bill is not my cup of tea and I would have preferred a repeal only bill.

That said, liberals don't like it and I attribute that to the good work of Mark Meadows and the Freedom Caucus getting some things added that they could live with.


If liberals are complaining about something or someone, it is usually a good indication that it is good for 'Murica.
 
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