GOP's "Starving Kids Bill"

GOP wants to

1) Repeal birth control coverage
2) Make abortion illegal

Then, when the kids wil be born, the mothers are gonna loose their right to all social services
Pennsylvania Bill Would Reduce Benefits For Women Who Can't Prove They Were Raped

Pennsylvania Bill Would Reduce Welfare Benefits For Women Who Cannot Prove They Were Raped



A Pennsylvania House bill seeks to limit the amount of TANF assistance that low-income women receive based on the amount of children they give birth to while covered under the program.

Despite the fact that low-income women who give birth to children would logically need increased assistance to care for their larger family, Pennsylvania lawmakers — State Reps. RoseMarie Swanger (R), Tom Caltagirone (D), Mark Gillen (R), Keith Gillespie (R), Adam Harris (R), and Mike Tobash (R) — don’t want their state’s welfare program to provide additional benefits for that newborn. If a woman gives birth to a child who was conceived from rape, she may seek an exception to this rule so that her welfare benefits aren’t slashed, but only if she can provide proof that she reported her sexual assault and her abuser’s identity to the police:

In determining the amount of assistance payments to a recipient family of benefits under the Temporary Assistance to Needy Families (TANF) Program, the department shall revise the schedule of benefits to be paid to the recipient family by eliminating the increment in benefits under the program for which that family would otherwise be eligible as a result of the birth of a child conceived during the period in which the family is eligible for benefits under the TANF Program. [...]

Elimination of benefits under subsection shall not apply to any child conceived as a result of rape or incest if the department: receives a non-notarized, signed statement from the pregnant woman stating that she was a victim of rape or incest, as the case may be, and that she reported the crime, including the identity of the offender, if known, to a law enforcement agency having the requisite jurisdiction or, in the case of incest where a pregnant minor is the victim, to the county child protective service agency and stating the name of the law enforcement agency or child protective service agency to which the report was made and the date such report was made.

The language of the bill goes on to note that a sexual assault victim applying for an exemption will be required to sign a statement affirming she understands that “false reports to law enforcement authorities are punishable by law,” and stipulates that Pennsylvania will report any “evidence of false statements or fraud” to the correct department, all the way up to the Attorney General’s office.

Aside from punishing women who have children — particularly low-income women who may not have reliable access to affordable contraception — the proposed bill perpetrates a dangerous attitude toward survivors of sexual assault. Forcing women to prove the legitimacy of their sexual assault, and warning them about the serious consequences of “crying rape” to cheat the system, puts forth the misguided assumption that victims of sexual violence are not to be believed. Furthermore, countless women choose not to report their rapists to the police because they fear repercussions from their abusers, who could threaten their lives. An estimated 54 percent of sexual assaults are not reported to the authorities.

This is not the first type of legislation of its kind. Last month, New Mexico proposed a bill that would have required women seeking childcare assistance to prove they were “forcibly raped,” although Gov. Susana Martinez (R) has requested to remove that language.
http://thinkprogress.org/health/2012/10/24/1083101/proposed-bill-food-stamp-benefits-raped/


So, basically, these guys wanna make sure women would give birth but once the kid is born, the mother is gonna loose everything the government was giving her before.
Government was helping her 'cause she couldn't live her life decently on her own and now that she has a kid, she will have to survive, feed her kid, dress him, etc. on her own :facepalm:

As Is was saying : they've proposed the Starving Kid's Bill
 
GOP wants to
1) Repeal birth control coverage
2) Make abortion illegal

Then, when the kids wil be born, the mothers are gonna loose their right to all social services
http://thinkprogress.org/health/2012/10/24/1083101/proposed-bill-food-stamp-benefits-raped/


So, basically, these guys wanna make sure women would give birth but once the kid is born, the mother is gonna loose everything the government was giving her before.
Government was helping her 'cause she couldn't live her life decently on her own and now that she has a kid, she will have to survive, feed her kid, dress him, etc. on her own :facepalm:

As Is was saying : they've proposed the Starving Kid's Bill

sounds like an increased crime rate to me. Shit head Christian ethics, do as I say no matter how ignorant or dark ages it may seem. Way to hold mankind back once again.
 

Will E Worm

Conspiracy...
It's called self-control and personal responsibility.

You are responsible for yourself and your actions, not everyone else. :hatsoff:
Ok but how do these women avoid to have kid if they have to pay for birth control is abortion's illegal.
It's like punishing your kid for not having done his homework but refusing to give him a pen !
It's like blaming the post-office for no having sent to destination the letter you gave them, even if you didn't wrote the address !
 

Will E Worm

Conspiracy...
Ok but how do these women avoid to have kid if they have to pay for birth control is abortion's illegal.
It's like punishing your kid for not having done his homework but refusing to give him a pen !
It's like blaming the post-office for no having sent to destination the letter you gave them, even if you didn't wrote the address !

Females can avoid having children by practicing self-control.

No one is responsible for you except you. Birth control is not a right.
 
Females can avoid having children by practicing self-control.
Self-control ? What kind of self-control ?
Also, I remind you that it takes both a woman and a man to conceive a child. Women can't conceive on ther own. So why would it would be to women to practice self-control ? Why not men ?

Birth control is not a right.
Then, what are the rights ?
 

Will E Worm

Conspiracy...
Self-control ? What kind of self-control ?
Also, I remind you that it takes both a woman and a man to conceive a child. Women can't conceive on ther own. So why would it would be to women to practice self-control ? Why not men ?

She can say no.


Then, what are the rights ?

Read the Constitution. The right to pursue happiness.
 
And my happiness is Fucking, so now your telling women to say no and take that right away from me
 
I did that twice I think marriage should be outlawed
 
She can say no.
Or, he can pull out before ejaculation...




Read the Constitution. The right to pursue happiness.
The concept of the "pursuit of happiness" is very vague. If gay people say they want to marry each other to be happy, why would they be denied this right ?

I haven't seen "food" in the Constitution. Does it mean food stamps should be abolished ?
I haven't seen "health" in the Constitution. Does it mean all healthcare should be abolished ?
I haven't seen "education" in the Constitution. Does it mean the Government and the States should stop financing any school or college and privatized them all ?
 
careful that's what the right wing nuts want
 

Will E Worm

Conspiracy...
I did that twice I think marriage should be outlawed

:facepalm:

The concept of the "pursuit of happiness" is very vague. If gay people say they want to marry each other to be happy, why would they be denied this right ?

It's not "vague". Like I said, go read the Constitution. Also read, the Bill of Rights and the Declaration of Independence.


You won't find "God" in the Constitution, either.

America has many important documents.

Unalienable Rights - From God

". . . endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights . . ." (Declaration of Independence) Link

God-given rights are sometimes called Natural Rights--those possessed by Man


Pledge of Allegiance Link

"One Nation Under God"

I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.


The Gregorian calendar is a Christian calendar, because it uses the birth of Jesus Christ as the starting date. Dates of the Christian era are designated AD (Latin anno domini, “in the year of our Lord”) and BC (before Christ), thus making the birth of our Lord as the center point of all human history. The official Christian church calendar is a table containing holy days, saints’ days, and festivals of’ the Church, with the dates of the civil calendar on which they occur. These include the fixed feasts, such as Christmas, and the movable feasts, which depend on the date of Easter. It was this calendar, the Christian calendar, to which the Founders referred when giving the date of their inspired creation, the U.S. Constitution.
Link

:clap:
 
The Gregorian calendar is a Christian calendar, because it uses the birth of Jesus Christ as the starting date. Dates of the Christian era are designated AD (Latin anno domini, “in the year of our Lord”) and BC (before Christ), thus making the birth of our Lord as the center point of all human history. The official Christian church calendar is a table containing holy days, saints’ days, and festivals of’ the Church, with the dates of the civil calendar on which they occur. These include the fixed feasts, such as Christmas, and the movable feasts, which depend on the date of Easter. It was this calendar, the Christian calendar, to which the Founders referred when giving the date of their inspired creation, the U.S. Constitution.
Link
Historians have proved that Jesus birth date is wrong, he was probably born on 4 or 6 B.C.
http://www.thenazareneway.com/date_of_birth_and_death_of_jesus.htm

Also, the dates of the holy days have been settled to replace previous pagan holy days, with one for each season: Christmas = Winter, Easter = Spring, St John (back in the day it was much more important than it is now) = Summer, All Saint Day/Halloween = Autumn.
There no elements that could indicate that Jesus was born on December 25th, it was stettled this way by Pope Liberius on 354 AD
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bobjustbob

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There's a lot of issues here. There is a system in place that people take advantage of. Having more kids boosts the benefits. Not just in food but in housing. Abortion becomes a form of birth control for some women. Both of these things are wrong is too many ways. We can't help how we are made so the woman needs to be responsible for her sexual activities. Birth control pills are less than $10 per month. If she wants to be sexually active then that isn't much of a cost. Any clinic will write a script with the cost of a pelvic exam. Morning after pills can be gotten also if she wants to have her man shoot in her and she is not so sexually active. If she wants to have a kid then she should be responsible for that decision. Before she spreads her legs she's gotta think about the potential baby's daddy.
 

Will E Worm

Conspiracy...
Historians have proved that Jesus birth date is wrong, he was probably born on 4 or 6 B.C.
http://www.thenazareneway.com/date_of_birth_and_death_of_jesus.htm

Also, the dates of the holy days have been settled to replace previous pagan holy days, with one for each season: Christmas = Winter, Easter = Spring, St John (back in the day it was much more important than it is now) = Summer, All Saint Day/Halloween = Autumn.
There no elements that could indicate that Jesus was born on December 25th, it was stettled this way by Pope Liberius on 354 AD
.

:facepalm: Christian-hating "historians".



There's a lot of issues here. There is a system in place that people take advantage of. Having more kids boosts the benefits. Not just in food but in housing. Abortion becomes a form of birth control for some women. Both of these things are wrong is too many ways. We can't help how we are made so the woman needs to be responsible for her sexual activities. Birth control pills are less than $10 per month. If she wants to be sexually active then that isn't much of a cost. Any clinic will write a script with the cost of a pelvic exam. Morning after pills can be gotten also if she wants to have her man shoot in her and she is not so sexually active. If she wants to have a kid then she should be responsible for that decision. Before she spreads her legs she's gotta think about the potential baby's daddy.

Yes. Be responsible and pay your own way.
 
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