Feds Shutdown Top File-Sharing Site, Megaupload Today
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Patrick_S
persona non grata
But Ninjas are still gonna be ok, right?2012: The Year the World Ends..... for Pirates
Yes, it is clear....and it is against the law. I do not deny this. My response was to Briana making the claim of shared content being stolen...not all shared content is originally stolen.
But you're not out in the streets are you? You're doing well for yourself...
I have too much to say on this subject. File-sharing became mainstream through the likes of sharing music online with friends (Napster anyone?).
Who here has an iPod? iPhone? iPad? Any Media Player? The storage on those thing are getting ludicrous..32Gb, 64Gb...A 64Gb iPod can hold up to 16,000 songs...are some of y'all trying to tell me you paid for every song on your media player? Some of you guys are richer than I thought....
Currently, iTunes (in the U.K.) sell tracks from 99p to 59p (which is what? 1.50 to 0.90 in US dollars?). If I paid for EACH track I'd be paying up to £13,000...GBP or US dollars that is ALOT of money...now imagine throwing movies into that as well? How does that make sense? It's the ugly truth the record and movie industry wants to ignore as they struggle to find ways to get people to pay for content in a culture that has already embraced the idea of media being something you collect in large volumes, and trade freely with your friends.
Do you not know how many of these sites there are? Not to mention torr£nt$...
So you think 12 year-old *********, Grandmothers, single mums and even deceased Great Gand ******* are "morons"?
Patrick_S
persona non grata
So what? I have almost 1000 albums on vinyl/cd, and i paid for every single one of them. I haven´t done the math exactly how much i have paid for my albums but i would guess the number would be pretty close to £13000. Why the hell should **** today get the same songs for free?
Erika Red
Official Checked Star Member
What point do you have to make, just cause we are not on the streets does not mean we make tens of thousands of dollars or more a year in this industry, many of us have real jobs to pay the bills, along with this work? Your statement is that of a ***** and makes no sense?
If you didn't pay for all your songs you should not have them, cause basically you stole them. I have almost 1100 songs on my ipod, and yea they are all paid for and either on my amazon cloud, itunes account, walmart (now gone) or I own the CD's.
Yes we know how many of these ******* sites there are and ******* sites, and I hope someday to see them all be shut down if they can not comply with the law. I feel there is no reason for these sites, but that is my opinion. Basically if a File Sharing site wants to stay open, then remove and prevent the uploading and distribution of pirated content.
Yes - yes I do if they uploaded or downloaded stolen content, then that have to realize they had no right to do so. Ignorance to the law does not give one the right to break it, and now days if you are that ignorant - then yeah they qualify as a "Morons"
Did you pay for it all in a calendar year? I'm sure your collection built over time.
First of all it's not only '****' and second it's because they can. It is against the law...and some may even say it is 'wrong'. The sad truth is that it never had to be this way...Maybe taking the money out of music is the only way to get money back into it. The same for all media...but of course this is easier said than done.
In my experience, it is those @ the top that lose the most money. I'm all for the support of the "artist", the talent that creates the content...I think it is important to support the ones we like, so they can continue. I hope in my heart of hearts there are people who download from P2P websites that still by products, go to concerts, sign-up to a webcam etc. I apologize as you were obviously offended...
So if it was cold outside, your bank account was empty until your next pay check, which was next month and there was this track that your friend was raving about and they offered to share it with you. What would you do? What would you do? It's only one track...and so many people are already downloading it anyway so it's not like if you didn't it would make a difference.
Then users will go some place else...
I used to reject the wishy-washy "music should be free!" (or anything else for that matter) mantra of online thieves.... I knew too much about the intricacies and economics of it, of the rock-and-a-hard-place situation many artists were in with their labels. I thought there were plenty of new ways to sell that would be fair to all parties involved. But I no longer believe that, because the squabbling, backwards, greedy, ownership-obsessed major labels will never let it happen, and that's more clear to me now than ever. So maybe music has to be free...maybe ALL media has to be free.
Does anyone remember Oink? Oink was a free members-only site - to join it you had to be invited by a member. Members had access to an unprecedented community-driven database of music.... Every album you could ever imagine was just one click away.
All the music that was uploaded was required to be top quality and most were better standards than the ones you'd find in iTunes.
Long story short, Oink was not only an absolute paradise for music fans, but it was unquestionably the most complete and most efficient music distribution model the world has ever known... I say that safely without exaggeration.... It was like the world's largest music store, whose vastly superior selection and distribution was entirely stocked, supplied, organized, and expanded upon by its own consumers.
If the music industry had found a way to capitalize on the power, devotion, and innovation of its own fans the way Oink did, it would be thriving right now instead of withering. If intellectual property laws didn't make Oink *******, the site's creator would be the new Steve Jobs right now. He would have revolutionized music distribution.... Instead, he's a criminal, simply for finding the best way to fill rising consumer demand. I would have gladly paid a large monthly fee for a legal service as good as Oink - but none existed, because the music industry could never set aside their own greed and corporate bullshit to make it happen...
Briana Lee
Official Checked Star Member
Are you kidding me?! How can you compare a candy bar to digital media?! Jeez!!!
I've got to say that you are 1 of the most rudest people I have had the displeasure of interacting with on here. This isn't the first time you've posted something like this. You obviously don't give a crap about the porn business as a whole & the people that work within it, so why the hell do you post on this board?! To cause trouble is my guess?!
Oh of course, I'm a model so I must be filthy rich right?! That's a pretty ridiculous thing to say. You don't know me & you don't know my circumstances so please don't make assumptions just on what I do for a living.
And please don't use this as an excuse to say that because you presume all models are rich then it doesn't matter that people steal off of them. It's just ignorant.
I work my ass off at what I do and yeah I take exception when I see people like you & the others that have said it's ok to not pay for premium content that I've worked hard to produce.
Then you don't know much about this business then do you. With most solo sites it is the model that is the 1 that loses out the most, who is the creator of the content. How can you say that you are supporting the content creator when you have made it quite clear that you are in favour of not paying for music, porn etc. This means the creator has not received anything from you & yet you have their content so how are you supporting them?! :hairpull:
How do you get the money for the site? Isn't there someone you have to pay? I don't watch much porn and even so, material on websites like these are enough for me...but for those that are independent (which I imagine incudes both you and Erika) I'll happily pay for subscriptions, pay for videos, buy music, buy their merchandise, tell all my friends about them and help promote them online - I'd like to prove to them that a network of passionate fans is the best promotion these people can ask for.
This reminds me of this article I found just yesterday....
Is This The Real Reason Why MegaUpload Was Shut Down?
There were actually quite a few recording artists that were legitimately upset that Megaupload was shutdown, because they were planning on using the site to upload their songs to the public and get much of the revenue for those songs. The public would get the songs for free and the artists would get paid for all of the content they'd produce. If I had been in the MPAA/RIAA's shoes, I would have salvaged Megaupload or started a site much like it in order to ADAPT to the Internet, rather than trying to censor it. The site could be regulated by verifying the accounts of artists/actors/content owners/industries (done through a legal manner of sorts) much like Twitter and Facebook do, so that if anyone who downloads a song/movie and tries to upload it again to make some money off of it would immediately be noticed and taken down through legal means or having their accounts shutdown (it would be up to the content owner to decide whether or not to press charges of course).
This way everybody wins; the content owners can get 90% of the revenue as mentioned above, and industries can get their cut, and the people get the content for free while naturally abiding under fair use laws. It's not perfect, but this is all a rough draft that I've got going in my mind of how things would ideally go if these industries were to adopt something like what Megaupload was planning on going for. IMO, the best way to deal with piracy isn't to try to **** something that can't be ****** (I believe someone used the fitting analogy of piracy being like the Hydra); you can stop piracy by adapting to it and using piracy's methods against it. If people get the content they want in a more affordable manner, you'll see a massive reduction in the amount of people turning to piracy to get the content they desire.
This way everybody wins; the content owners can get 90% of the revenue as mentioned above, and industries can get their cut, and the people get the content for free while naturally abiding under fair use laws. It's not perfect, but this is all a rough draft that I've got going in my mind of how things would ideally go if these industries were to adopt something like what Megaupload was planning on going for. IMO, the best way to deal with piracy isn't to try to **** something that can't be ****** (I believe someone used the fitting analogy of piracy being like the Hydra); you can stop piracy by adapting to it and using piracy's methods against it. If people get the content they want in a more affordable manner, you'll see a massive reduction in the amount of people turning to piracy to get the content they desire.
Will E Worm
Conspiracy...
Sounds like it.
That would have changed the music industry and the big wigs would have been out of their plush jobs.
would we ever know? they're so secretive and all...
Ninjas have tiny cocks. That's why they always hiding in shame
Music Labels’ Joint Venture, VEVO, Shows Pirated NFL Game At Sundance
Hypocrites
http://techcrunch.com/2012/02/09/mu...ure-vevo-shows-pirated-espn-game-at-sundance/techcrunch.com said:
Hypocrites
What they should do is pass laws that ****** the concept of the right of first sale in almost all types of transactions, even in electronic media, and even if the person only has the license to it, for most common types of things. One of the things that happens now is that things are moving to more electronic formats in an effort to ***** more people to buy something when it could have easily been given or sold away used before.
What also needs to be kept in mind is that unlike physical products there is basically an infinity amount of an electronic one and it cost almost nothing for the producers to make those infinity amounts. It can't be compared to say stealing a candy bar from the store or a car, for example, where an actual physical item is probably forever lost and can't be sold anymore. We approach dangerous territory when we start to think of what amounts to information and ideas in the sense we do physical commodities. Not taking into account the morality or ethicalness of it I consider it more a technical breaking of the law than what is classically considered "stealing".
What also needs to be kept in mind is that unlike physical products there is basically an infinity amount of an electronic one and it cost almost nothing for the producers to make those infinity amounts. It can't be compared to say stealing a candy bar from the store or a car, for example, where an actual physical item is probably forever lost and can't be sold anymore. We approach dangerous territory when we start to think of what amounts to information and ideas in the sense we do physical commodities. Not taking into account the morality or ethicalness of it I consider it more a technical breaking of the law than what is classically considered "stealing".
ahahahahahahahaha look at this fucking loser.
Looks like your typical Freeones user if you ask me. Kinda reminds me of Wilson Fisk.:dunno:
On a more serious note, I am of the personal opinion that many of the people who "pirated" material would most likely not have purchased the items to begin with. I know that unless it is something I really want, I wont buy it.
RichardNailder
Approved Content Owner
So - it's ok for me to walk into the local Mercedes dealer and steal a brand new CL just because I "would most likely not have purchased the item to begin with"?
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